6 points but against Arsenal and City knowing Palace.

Seriously though I cannot predict. I can see us getting 0 points and being routed to the bottom after these 4 games. If this is the case we'll have to hope we're only 4 points off safety come January transfer window. I think the goal has always been to be within touching distance of safety when Roy can add to the playing staff so 0 points might not actually be the end of the world.

Of course it's not just an isolated case of 0 points, Lose 4 and morale will be rock bottom and we won't look attractive to transfer targets.

Unfortunately I think you have to at least predict a loss against Leicester, Arsenal and City, we haven't scored a goal away yet and Leicester will almost certainly get at least 1.

Swansea is massive. We have to treat that like the home team and forget about silly records like not scoring away. Win that won and I'll be happy with 3 points from this 4 games.

The way we have been playing, we can pick up a win against swansea, they are terrible and low right now, with leicester, depends which leicester shows up.

6 points achievable in those two games, the next 2, i can see a draw. So ofcourse 12 would be outstanding. 8 would be amazing.

I'm going on 6.

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Leicester away is probably easier than Leicester at home. If you have to get at them they are devastating on break and have scored 16 away in League (Just a reminder we have zero)

I agree just 3 points at Swansea might be most we can hope for. That finishes the first half of season so Arsenal and Man City are just a tough start to the second

Arsenal look iffy in central defence. Mertesacker is finished and Koscielny not up to usual standard whilst Cech doesnt trust himself to catch ball under pressure

Luckily we have just the striker to take advantage of these shortcomings in Benteke

5 incl league Cup

If we get three points from these games we will have done well.
Leicester are on fire and way too quick for us up front.
Swansea and Arsenal - anything is possible.
Man City - I doubt we will get away with less than three put past us.
As we hit Southampton away I expect us to have 17 points and be bottom with 17 games to go

We need to get three at Swansea and we might get a point off Arsenal at home. I'm not hopeful for this Saturday or the visit of Man City, so an optimistic four.

Bexley Dave

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