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mattteo 14 Nov 17 11.04pm | |
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This post is in response to all the rumours linking us to 20+ million Khouma Babacar, Cenk Tosun, Slimani, Florin Andone or others.
Nils Petersen- probably the most underrated big center forward out there. If you want someone who can score big time and is a big man up front for moments when you dominate, he's your man. Never really appreciated in Freiburg. Olympic silver medalist in 2016 with Germany, after scoring 6 goals in the tournament. The Germans ask for really small fees compared to the players' value and compared to the English market. Petersen is better than any player who costs 5-8 times more and plays in the PL Dwight Gayle- really underrated in his time here. I've seen many opinions about him being a "great Championship player", but not "good enough for the PL". I find that impossible. Those who prove themselves very good in the Championship are also good strikers in the PL. From Rickie Lambert to Troy Deeney, from Charlie Austin to Jamie Vardy, from Callum Wilson to Ighalo, from Andre Gray to Abel Hernandez, they've all been decent if not actually good in the PL. Yes, there's the occasional Patrick Bamford, but he was very young and inexperienced and at his age was always a gamble. Gayle has been a steady goalscorer both in the PL and in the Championship for many years. IF you give him playing time, he'll do it, he'll repay you. Rafa Benitez has turned away from him, even though it was mainly Gayle who ensured their promotion from the Championship. He prefers Joselu and Mitrovic. Even though he has 9 matches and no goals this year, Dwight Gayle has actually scored last match against Bournemouth and it was wrongly disallowed for offside (you can check it out on many sites: [Link] ) Emenike- this one's a tricky one, as he doesn't seem to be scoring much. He has even retired from the Nigeria national after criticism of not having scored in 2 years. Well, the time may seem long, but he actually assisted 5 times in those last 1200 minutes for the national team (and they were tough games in the World Cup with Bosnia and Argentina where he assisted). I don't differentiate much between a goal and an assist and it just shows that he still contributed for the ultimate purpose: scoring. If a center forward doesn't score but provides an assist every other match is still a good thing. And up until then he had been a wonderful goalscorer too, with 8 goals in 13 matches for Nigeria and also at club level with Spartak Moscow and Fenerbahce, You could say he didn't cut it for West Ham, but he was just used in 16 matches, mostly coming on as a substitute for a few minutes (and he did score 2 goals).He's with Olympiakos, but they also invested in the young Serbian goalscorer Djurdjevic (who's not a confirmation yet), so they might let Emenike go for a low fee. He's 30 years old. Obafemi Martins- a little too old at 33, but he's one of my favourites. His goals per minutes played ration is surpassed only by a few players at medium-level football leagues in the last years. 40 goals and 20 assists in the MLS in 6200 minutes (beat that, Giovinco!) and 16 goals and 8 assists in China in 2500 minutes. Those of you who had been around back in the day, remember just how fast and awesome he was at 20 years old, playing for Internazionale Milano. He's undervalued in Shanghai Shenhua though and even though the Chinese pretty much ask for gazzillions when selling their star players, they want to give up on Martins because they have the 3 foreign player berths occupied by Carlos Tevez, Giovanni Moreno and Freddy Guarin.
Some other players, but not strikers, who would be good for improving the scoring and cheap (because there are also Zaha and Townsend who are really good and starters): Right footed wingers: Left footed wingers:
Edited by mattteo (14 Nov 2017 11.06pm) Edited by mattteo (14 Nov 2017 11.08pm) Edited by mattteo (14 Nov 2017 11.14pm)
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miles18 Telford 14 Nov 17 11.35pm | |
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Gayle is not a Prem striker...
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mattteo 14 Nov 17 11.59pm | |
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Originally posted by miles18
Gayle is not a Prem striker... Why not? 25 goals in 3500 minutes for Crystal Palace say he is. What more would it take for him to be one? Do you want him to grow wings and fly? Score a hat trick every match? Win his team the league?? Oh wait, he just did that for Newcastle last year, being the player with most goals and most assists Edited by mattteo (15 Nov 2017 12.01am)
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miles18 Telford 15 Nov 17 12.13am | |
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Championship is much easier. Not everyone makes it and he is one of them. No manager at Palace really rated him and neither does a decent manager like Rafa and no offence but they know a lot more than you. Bit like Rhodes, fantastic in the Championship but never did it in the Prem.
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mattteo 15 Nov 17 12.24am | |
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Originally posted by miles18
Championship is much easier. Not everyone makes it and he is one of them. No manager at Palace really rated him and neither does a decent manager like Rafa That just shows that managers aren't God. In fact, most of them end up in those positions because they're rich, well connected ex-sportsmen. Originally posted by miles18
Bit like Rhodes, fantastic in the Championship but never did it in the Prem.
But if you're amazing in the Championship you'll be at least decent in the PL. Again....screw everything I think or what the Palace managers were thinking when Gayle was here (by the way, where are those great managers now?).
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matthau South Croydon 15 Nov 17 1.36am | |
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How often do you have sex. It isn't enough.
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Casual Orpington 15 Nov 17 7.05am | |
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It’s not just stats. Most of us have seen enough of him to form our own opinion. My opinion is that when he wasn’t played much but came on as sub he looked interested and sometimes scored, however when he forced himself in the starting eleven, he was a completely different player , games would pass him by and you wouldn’t even know he was playing.
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Baldfella Wigan 15 Nov 17 7.39am | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Why not? 25 goals in 3500 minutes for Crystal Palace say he is. What more would it take for him to be one? Do you want him to grow wings and fly? Score a hat trick every match? Win his team the league?? Oh wait, he just did that for Newcastle last year, being the player with most goals and most assists Edited by mattteo (15 Nov 2017 12.01am) Because at both Premier League teams he’s been at he hasn’t featured much and starts games even less!
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taylors lovechild 15 Nov 17 7.42am | |
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I was listening and then you said sell our best striker for £20 million and then I stopped even thinking about the rest.
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bexleydave Barnehurst 15 Nov 17 9.04am | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
I was listening and then you said sell our best striker for £20 million and then I stopped even thinking about the rest. That's a coincidence, so did I.
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Nov 17 9.20am | |
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Steve Bruce signed Asamoah Gyan for Sunderland from Rennes. He was at the club at the same time as Fraizer Camobell and Connor Wickham.I recall him as a player who was strong and quick and took free kicks over a wall. Jony of Malaga - Understand he is left-footed and plays out wide on the left.I know someone who is watching the Real Madrid v Malaga game on the Saturday after next so I will ask him about Jony if of course he plays. Edited by Willo (15 Nov 2017 9.27am)
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mattteo 15 Nov 17 10.57am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Steve Bruce signed Asamoah Gyan for Sunderland from Rennes. He was at the club at the same time as Fraizer Camobell and Connor Wickham.I recall him as a player who was strong and quick and took free kicks over a wall. Jony of Malaga - Understand he is left-footed and plays out wide on the left.I know someone who is watching the Real Madrid v Malaga game on the Saturday after next so I will ask him about Jony if of course he plays. Edited by Willo (15 Nov 2017 9.27am) Asamoah Gyan was a beast during his Sunderland days. And do you remember that World Cup? He is still amazing, he's been scoring constantly in the Arab league. A low league, I know, but he has also been good for the national team. He won't still be for long though, he's 32 now. Any team who wants him has to act quick. Jony will probably not play. He has been used very little this season, he mostly stays on the bench, which is a big reason for why Malaga is where it is. He's at least a decent sub if not a great starter. Strong and willing to run a lot, he's a match for the PL and would accept being Townsend's number 2 as long as he gets a little more playing time than in Malaga. Malaga got him from Gijon in 2016 after he had 2 seasons (therefore continuity) in the La Liga and La Liga 2 with double figures for assists.
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