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hedgehog50  Croydon 26 Sep 17 8.44am |
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Is it time to stop playing national anthems before sporting events. It's usually just an excuse for fans to boo the opposition, or is used for political purposes - the absurd posturing by the NFL millionaires being the latest example. (What's the paint on their faces about by the way?) Edited by hedgehog50 (26 Sep 2017 8.47am)
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 Stirlingsays 26 Sep 17 9.21am |
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You have a point. NFL millionaires are really just hurting their own communities. Since this started TV ratings for the NFL have taken a dive and this will eventually feed into their contracts. Plenty of these millionaires support multiple poor families and as they continue to bite the hand that feeds them then they will quickly realise that mixing your politics with sport has its own cost.
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| PaddyMcPaddy 26 Sep 17 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You have a point. NFL millionaires are really just hurting their own communities. Since this started TV ratings for the NFL have taken a dive and this will eventually feed into their contracts. Plenty of these millionaires support multiple poor families and as they continue to bite the hand that feeds them then they will quickly realise that mixing your politics with sport has its own cost.
Secondly those millionaires are far from hurting the communities they live in. On the whole most of them do far more charity work then most people in the world will do in a lifetime.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Sep 17 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by PaddyMcPaddy
Secondly those millionaires are far from hurting the communities they live in. On the whole most of them do far more charity work then most people in the world will do in a lifetime. It's pointless arguing with those 2. In their warped minds the players are wrong because they are not white. They don't understand the issues behind What s going on, nor do they want to because it will burst their bigot bubble.
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| Stirlingsays 26 Sep 17 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by PaddyMcPaddy
Secondly those millionaires are far from hurting the communities they live in. On the whole most of them do far more charity work then most people in the world will do in a lifetime. We could argue over the percent.....though your idea that people...to any significant degree, would completely stop watching the sport over safety changes is hard to take seriously. The fact that these millionaires may do charity work is also of little consequence to the argument made. Their actions, which have had a major contribution to the decline of the sport will feed into their pay packets. That will come to hurt their communities. That sir, is no nonsense and anyone with a genuine concern for those communities would be less interested in grandstanding millionaires and more interested about the reality of what those overt public division will inevitably cause. Politics and sport should be as separate as possible. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2017 12.23pm)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Sep 17 12.23pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's pointless arguing with those 2. In their warped minds the players are wrong because they are not white. They don't understand the issues behind What s going on, nor do they want to because it will burst their bigot bubble. You think their ridiculous, virtue-signaling, posturing has any value whatsoever - apart from irritating the vast majority of people, which you no doubt consider a plus. Edited by hedgehog50 (26 Sep 2017 12.25pm)
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| Stirlingsays 26 Sep 17 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's pointless arguing with those 2. In their warped minds the players are wrong because they are not white. They don't understand the issues behind What s going on, nor do they want to because it will burst their bigot bubble. Take your racism charges and do one you virtue signalling idiot. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2017 12.25pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Sep 17 12.27pm |
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Virtue signalling? That's so 2015.
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| Stirlingsays 26 Sep 17 12.28pm |
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More than the number of your brain cells then. Just address the issues or go away. Your trolling diverts the thread away from the subject. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2017 12.29pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 26 Sep 17 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's pointless arguing with those 2. In their warped minds the players are wrong because they are not white. They don't understand the issues behind What s going on, nor do they want to because it will burst their bigot bubble. It's all white people's fault, right Nick? You must be ashamed to be white as well as British.
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Mr Fenandes  26 Sep 17 12.30pm |
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I used to get so angry with anyone who didn't sing God Save The Queen until I really heard the words one day and saw her miserable face on a kingdom of jewels and thought why the f*** am I promoting this? Land of hope and glory or Jerusalem win for me every day. As for the protests, fair play. Sit down and have your voice heard if you don't agree with your country and what they are doing. How people can get so offended with others not joining in on a sing-song is pretty hilarious.
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| PaddyMcPaddy 26 Sep 17 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
We could argue over the percent.....though your idea that people...to any significant degree, would completely stop watching the sport over safety changes is hard to take seriously. The fact that these millionaires may do charity work is also of little consequence to the argument made. Their actions, which have had a major contribution to the decline of the sport will feed into their pay packets. That will come to hurt their communities. That sir, is no nonsense and anyone with a genuine concern for those communities would be less interested in grandstanding millionaires and more interested about the reality of what those overt public division will inevitably cause. Politics and sport should be as separate as possible. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2017 12.23pm) Do you have any idea what you are really talking about. The safety changes have effectively changed the game. So yes the rule changes have made a huge difference. It would be a bit like making football no overhead height or heading the ball. To your second point i'm not going to even discuss.
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