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rikz Croydon 12 Sep 17 10.51am | |
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For the ones who moan about our lack of transfer activity.
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Mstrobez 12 Sep 17 10.55am | |
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I've been very impressed by the amount spent in recent years on players. How wisely it's been spent, not so much.
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Part Time James 12 Sep 17 11.16am | |
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We've had some duds but I'd be interested to know how we compare to other teams in terms of expensive failures. I.e.: some kind of ratio of return for investment. Although we could reel off names of some sh*te players we've paid for, I've not felt like we've been any worse for this than many other English clubs. It might feel worse given that we scrutinise our own signings more than those of others, but I'd be surprised to find that we were anywhere near the worst club for wasting money on flops.
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Mstrobez 12 Sep 17 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
We've had some duds but I'd be interested to know how we compare to other teams in terms of expensive failures. I.e.: some kind of ratio of return for investment. Although we could reel off names of some sh*te players we've paid for, I've not felt like we've been any worse for this than many other English clubs. It might feel worse given that we scrutinise our own signings more than those of others, but I'd be surprised to find that we were anywhere near the worst club for wasting money on flops. Perhaps not but certain situations have probably led us to overspending as well. January a prime example, had to be done to keep us up, but I think even Parish himself conceded in an interview that none of the signings were considered to be particularly good business from a financial point of view. Did we need Schlupp and PVA? Undoubtedly. Were they worth a combined £25mil+? No way.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Sep 17 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
Perhaps not but certain situations have probably led us to overspending as well. January a prime example, had to be done to keep us up, but I think even Parish himself conceded in an interview that none of the signings were considered to be particularly good business from a financial point of view. Did we need Schlupp and PVA? Undoubtedly. Were they worth a combined £25mil+? No way. Yep, correcting previous football howler decisions. Too many of them happening. Unless some very astute decisions are made I think we'll go down next season if it isn't this season.
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Charlie Croker Hampshire 12 Sep 17 11.36am | |
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Have we in fact spent the most in managerial failures though . . ?
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Mstrobez 12 Sep 17 11.39am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yep, correcting previous football howler decisions. Too many of them happening. Unless some very astute decisions are made I think we'll go down next season if it isn't this season. Read in an article yesterday a quote that "Frank was repaying a loan taken out from Sam & Parish". Hard to argue really.
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rikz Croydon 12 Sep 17 11.44am | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
We've had some duds but I'd be interested to know how we compare to other teams in terms of expensive failures. I.e.: some kind of ratio of return for investment. Although we could reel off names of some sh*te players we've paid for, I've not felt like we've been any worse for this than many other English clubs. It might feel worse given that we scrutinise our own signings more than those of others, but I'd be surprised to find that we were anywhere near the worst club for wasting money on flops. Yeah that would be quite interesting. I think we've definitely prioritised a first 11 over a squad of 25, now we are starting to feel the effects, we need to rely on a bit of luck now and will take a couple of years to get the balance right.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Sep 17 11.47am | |
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Originally posted by rikz
Yeah that would be quite interesting. I think we've definitely prioritised a first 11 over a squad of 25, now we are starting to feel the effects, we need to rely on a bit of luck now and will take a couple of years to get the balance right. Exactly my thoughts. These 2 seasons are massive. After that it might get easier and if we've been doing our homework, even better. Must get a dof though. Freedman? Why oh why?
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rikz Croydon 12 Sep 17 11.55am | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
Perhaps not but certain situations have probably led us to overspending as well. January a prime example, had to be done to keep us up, but I think even Parish himself conceded in an interview that none of the signings were considered to be particularly good business from a financial point of view. Did we need Schlupp and PVA? Undoubtedly. Were they worth a combined £25mil+? No way. That's turnt out to be another problem, 3 lb all im sure must be on similar wages and a similar standard. If only pardew had the sense to bring in a cheaper back up for souare.
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Part Time James 12 Sep 17 11.55am | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
Perhaps not but certain situations have probably led us to overspending as well. January a prime example, had to be done to keep us up, but I think even Parish himself conceded in an interview that none of the signings were considered to be particularly good business from a financial point of view. Did we need Schlupp and PVA? Undoubtedly. Were they worth a combined £25mil+? No way. Good shout, we've almost certainly overpaid for some of the players along the way. For me it hinges a bit on Wickham and Benteke. The return on Wickham has been bad so far, but he got a nasty injury so I don't equate his purchase to bad business (yet). Benteke isn't scoring goals and cost £30m. Looks like bad business but actually, played in the right way he is actually a significantly better goalscorer than the strikers we had in the squad at the time of purchase. So again, time will tell as to whether the purchase of Benteke was bad business or not. If, in a season or two time we evaluate Benteke and Wickham to have been poor business then perhaps I'll change my perception.
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