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legaleagle  09 Sep 17 1.00pm |
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John Le Carre is one of our most respected popular authors. He worked for M15 and M15,has been around the block and even those on the far right would have difficulty in suggesting he is not a "patriot". Speaking this week,he said: "Something truly,seriously bad is happening... These stages that Trump is going through and the stirring of racial hatred..a kind of burning of the books as he attacks,as he declares real news as fake news,the law becomes fake news,everything becomes fake news... I think of all things that were happening across Europe in the 1930s,in Spain Japan,obviously in Germany.To me,there are absolutely comparable signs of the rise of fascism and it's contagious,it's infectious.Fascism is up and running in Poland and Hungary.There's an encouragement about. ..These are infectious forms of demagogic behaviour and they are toxic..." Worrying times, illustrated when some now even seek to claim an equivalency between fascism and anti-fascism. nb. I messed up the thread title.Not enough space,Last word was "sentiments"Mods can you amend last two words to "fascism"? Edited by legaleagle (09 Sep 2017 1.02pm)
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  Hrolf The Ganger 09 Sep 17 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
John Le Carre is one of our most respected popular authors. He worked for M15 and M15,has been around the block and even those on the far right would have difficulty in suggesting he is not a "patriot". Speaking this week,he said: "Something truly,seriously bad is happening... These stages that Trump is going through and the stirring of racial hatred..a kind of burning of the books as he attacks,as he declares real news as fake news,the law becomes fake news,everything becomes fake news... I think of all things that were happening across Europe in the 1930s,in Spain Japan,obviously in Germany.To me,there are absolutely comparable signs of the rise of fascism and it's contagious,it's infectious.Fascism is up and running in Poland and Hungary.There's an encouragement about. ..These are infectious forms of demagogic behaviour and they are toxic..." Worrying times, illustrated when some now even seek to claim an equivalency between fascism and anti-fascism. nb. I messed up the thread title.Not enough space,Last word was "sentiments"Mods can you amend last two words to "fascism"? Edited by legaleagle (09 Sep 2017 1.02pm) Well I'm glad you and John Le Carre think this is a major concern. I think Europe has much bigger and more pressing problems to worry about personally.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Sep 17 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
John Le Carre is one of our most respected popular authors. He worked for M15 and M15,has been around the block and even those on the far right would have difficulty in suggesting he is not a "patriot". Speaking this week,he said: "Something truly,seriously bad is happening... These stages that Trump is going through and the stirring of racial hatred..a kind of burning of the books as he attacks,as he declares real news as fake news,the law becomes fake news,everything becomes fake news... I think of all things that were happening across Europe in the 1930s,in Spain Japan,obviously in Germany.To me,there are absolutely comparable signs of the rise of fascism and it's contagious,it's infectious.Fascism is up and running in Poland and Hungary.There's an encouragement about. ..These are infectious forms of demagogic behaviour and they are toxic..." Worrying times, illustrated when some now even seek to claim an equivalency between fascism and anti-fascism. nb. I messed up the thread title.Not enough space,Last word was "sentiments"Mods can you amend last two words to "fascism"? John Le Carre (real name David Cornwell) who, when Salman Rushdie was sentenced to death by Islam for writing a book, instead of defending Rushie, said "nobody has a God-given right to insult a great religion and be published with impunity".
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Sep 17 1.47pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
John Le Carre (real name David Cornwell) who, when Salman Rushdie was sentenced to death by Islam for writing a book, instead of defending Rushie, said "nobody has a God-given right to insult a great religion and be published with impunity". Oh dear. So old Dave, ahem, I mean Mr Le Carre, is a bit of a dickhead after all.
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| legaleagle 09 Sep 17 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Oh dear. So old Dave, ahem, I mean Mr Le Carre, is a bit of a dickhead after all. Ho hum. Our two resident literary connoisseurs completely ignore the point,as they usually do about anything relating to the resurgence of fascism.Wonder why. As for Rushdie,this is what he had to say of Le Carre:"really admired Le Carré as a writer. I think of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy as one of the great novels of postwar Britain." And Le Carre said of Rushdie:"And if I met Salman tomorrow? I would warmly shake the hand of a brilliant fellow writer."
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Sep 17 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Ho hum. Our two resident literary connoisseurs completely ignore the point,as they usually do about anything relating to the resurgence of fascism.Wonder why. As for Rushdie,this is what he had to say of Le Carre:"really admired Le Carré as a writer. I think of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy as one of the great novels of postwar Britain." And Le Carre said of Rushdie:"And if I met Salman tomorrow? I would warmly shake the hand of a brilliant fellow writer." More arrogance and agenda. Fascism blah blah blah. You hate Nazis. We get it. So old Dave thinks that Rushdie is a good author but almost suggests that threatening to kill him for writing a book was justified. Nice.
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| Username Horsham 09 Sep 17 6.18pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Well I'm glad you and John Le Carre think this is a major concern. I think Europe has much bigger and more pressing problems to worry about personally.
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| youngpalacefan111 09 Sep 17 6.42pm |
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How can he argue with CNN being fake and biased. They have been caught multiple times, even there employees admit it hence there ratings falling massively.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Sep 17 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Ho hum. Our two resident literary connoisseurs completely ignore the point,as they usually do about anything relating to the resurgence of fascism.Wonder why. As for Rushdie,this is what he had to say of Le Carre:"really admired Le Carré as a writer. I think of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy as one of the great novels of postwar Britain." And Le Carre said of Rushdie:"And if I met Salman tomorrow? I would warmly shake the hand of a brilliant fellow writer." What, and chop his head off with the other hand?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Sep 17 7.00pm |
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Originally posted by Username
Bet you're ironing your brown shirt already. It is ludicrous to stir up some brown shirt scare when the real fascists in this country are bombing children at concerts, running people down in the streets, stabbing police and civilians. They are the real growing danger that needs addressing, not a few neo-nazi nut jobs. Edited by hedgehog50 (09 Sep 2017 7.01pm)
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| legaleagle 09 Sep 17 7.09pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
More arrogance and agenda. Fascism blah blah blah. You hate Nazis. We get it. So old Dave thinks that Rushdie is a good author but almost suggests that threatening to kill him for writing a book was justified. Nice.
Electing to completely ignore the point once again.Wonder why again.
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Kermit8  Hevon 09 Sep 17 7.16pm |
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The ultra right on here have more in common with the far right than they do with the centre right hence the shoulder shrugging and 'so whats?' when it comes to the idea of neo-nazism getting more airtime and bigger. Enablers in short.
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