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Tez Epsom 23 Aug 17 1.51pm
Firstly let me preface this by saying that I am firmly in the 'Puncheon' out brigade - nothing against the bloke at all, but he offers nothing creatively, no goalscoring threat and nothing particularly good defensively either. With that being said, there is a reason that he was club captain under both Allardyce and now, after time for consideration, de Boer, and that reason is communication. I don't get down to Selhurst as much as I'd like these days due to work commitments and travelling a lot, but I do my best to watch the games online and one thing that has struck me recently is that during the game now you can quite often pick up bits of the players shouts during the game. Puncheon is literally constantly talking, shouting, instructing his team-mates on where to go and what to do. An example that really stuck with me was in the Liverpool game, van Aanholt had conceded a thrown in Liverpool's half which was taken quickly and passed back to their right-back. PVA went to close the right back down and immediately you could hear Punch shout "No Patrick, tuck back in" as there was a Liverpool player (Firminho?) lurking in the space behind him. As we all know, we are not a team full of leaders or vocal players. Since Jedi left, we lack an organiser and someone who can relay the coaches instructions to the players on the pitch. It seems that Puncheon is the only one trusted by the manager to keep everyone focussed during the game. The question is, do we have anyone else who can step up and take control so that Punch can be benched? We saw the disastrous effect that the added responsibility had on Dann. I can't think of anyone other than Luka who'd be able to do it and maybe his English isn't good enough to be able to relay instructions quickly and effectively? Aside from him and Punch, there are no vocal players in this team and that is a big problem.
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Epsom 23 Aug 17 1.51pm

Firstly let me preface this by saying that I am firmly in the 'Puncheon' out brigade - nothing against the bloke at all, but he offers nothing creatively, no goalscoring threat and nothing particularly good defensively either.

With that being said, there is a reason that he was club captain under both Allardyce and now, after time for consideration, de Boer, and that reason is communication.

I don't get down to Selhurst as much as I'd like these days due to work commitments and travelling a lot, but I do my best to watch the games online and one thing that has struck me recently is that during the game now you can quite often pick up bits of the players shouts during the game.

Puncheon is literally constantly talking, shouting, instructing his team-mates on where to go and what to do. An example that really stuck with me was in the Liverpool game, van Aanholt had conceded a thrown in Liverpool's half which was taken quickly and passed back to their right-back. PVA went to close the right back down and immediately you could hear Punch shout "No Patrick, tuck back in" as there was a Liverpool player (Firminho?) lurking in the space behind him.

As we all know, we are not a team full of leaders or vocal players. Since Jedi left, we lack an organiser and someone who can relay the coaches instructions to the players on the pitch. It seems that Puncheon is the only one trusted by the manager to keep everyone focussed during the game.

The question is, do we have anyone else who can step up and take control so that Punch can be benched? We saw the disastrous effect that the added responsibility had on Dann. I can't think of anyone other than Luka who'd be able to do it and maybe his English isn't good enough to be able to relay instructions quickly and effectively? Aside from him and Punch, there are no vocal players in this team and that is a big problem.

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Uphill Bedford 23 Aug 17 1.56pm
The Captain should show by example and look to his own performance. We need creativity which he doesn't provide. Surely he is a liability if all he can offer is verbal instructions. Someone on the bench can do this and release a valuable space on the pitch.
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Bedford 23 Aug 17 1.56pm

The Captain should show by example and look to his own performance.
We need creativity which he doesn't provide. Surely he is a liability if all he can offer is verbal instructions.
Someone on the bench can do this and release a valuable space on the pitch.

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paperhat croydon 23 Aug 17 2.25pm
Originally posted by Uphill The Captain should show by example and look to his own performance. We need creativity which he doesn't provide. Surely he is a liability if all he can offer is verbal instructions. Someone on the bench can do this and release a valuable space on the pitch. in that case, punch fits perfectly looking at our performances of late!! Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan
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croydon 23 Aug 17 2.25pm

Originally posted by Uphill

The Captain should show by example and look to his own performance.
We need creativity which he doesn't provide. Surely he is a liability if all he can offer is verbal instructions.
Someone on the bench can do this and release a valuable space on the pitch.

in that case, punch fits perfectly looking at our performances of late!!

Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan

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matthau South Croydon 23 Aug 17 2.34pm
he is obviously respected, im sure if he worked in a call centre with me hes someone you wouldn't mind chit chatting to, not one of the to$$ers you try to ignore all day. So he like Jedi, is respected. Only issue is, hes lost it, many lose it at 33/35 years old, but hes lost it sooner. Who knows why, family bereavement etc, life happens, but he certainly isn't the same player as two years ago. He def needs to be benched, not sold, a wake up call, as for other leaders, unless we buy Sakho, its got to be Milo. That's all there is too it really. If last night was anything to go by with McArthurs display, and the idea of dropping milo is a silly one, that for me means puncheon has to make way. that also means McArthur should be considered too. as a captain when punch not playing.
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South Croydon 23 Aug 17 2.34pm

he is obviously respected, im sure if he worked in a call centre with me hes someone you wouldn't mind chit chatting to, not one of the to$$ers you try to ignore all day.

So he like Jedi, is respected. Only issue is, hes lost it, many lose it at 33/35 years old, but hes lost it sooner. Who knows why, family bereavement etc, life happens, but he certainly isn't the same player as two years ago.

He def needs to be benched, not sold, a wake up call, as for other leaders, unless we buy Sakho, its got to be Milo. That's all there is too it really.

If last night was anything to go by with McArthurs display, and the idea of dropping milo is a silly one, that for me means puncheon has to make way.

that also means McArthur should be considered too. as a captain when punch not playing.

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chateauferret 23 Aug 17 4.06pm
Technically he isn't good enough nowadays but we're in danger of making the Jedinak mistake again: failing to replace or recognise his non-technical contribution which Matthau has described very well. ============ The Ferret ============
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23 Aug 17 4.06pm

Technically he isn't good enough nowadays but we're in danger of making the Jedinak mistake again: failing to replace or recognise his non-technical contribution which Matthau has described very well.

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