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 Michaelawt85  Bexley 11 Jul 17 10.27am |
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What are people's opinions on this case? Didn't follow it from the very start but having picked the story up I am starting to have very strong thoughts on this. 1. The parents and their supporters are starting to turn this into a circus and about themselves rather than what is best for this child 2. Trump , the pope et al should keep their opinions to themselves 3. Why is it being dragged out all over the media. Should be kept private between the hospital, family and courts. 4. The very good name of GOSH is being dragged through the mud and trampled on. I had a child of mine treated there as a day old baby . The work they do is fantastic. It's a hospital like no other when you walk through the door and see some of the sites in there you cannot help but feel utterly humbled by what they are dealing with on an hourly basis there. They clearly love their son but I feel they are being selfish and have a mentality that he's theirs, they own him and can do what they like with him. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Thoughts?
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 Lyons550 Shirley 11 Jul 17 10.35am |
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Agree with point no.1...I cant help but think they're blinded by their own selfishness...they will never be able to move on until they accept the poor little mite would be better off at peace. To say his 'fighting' is to ignore the fact that its machines that are keeping him alive. Also...if they get take this risk who will they expect the to foot the bill for the rest of his life?
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| Harpo Oxfordshire 11 Jul 17 10.38am |
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Two things bother me. 1) It's the media that have turned this into a circus. They have paved the way to sell more copy. 2) I only read the headlines, but I fail to see why a judge should be the one to make a decision on the treatment that the child receives. Forgive me, but wasn't the death penalty abolished in the sixties? It is the NHS that should be making the decisions, but alas, the simply don't have the balls to make it.
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 11 Jul 17 10.45am |
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Originally posted by Harpo
Two things bother me. 1) It's the media that have turned this into a circus. They have paved the way to sell more copy. 2) I only read the headlines, but I fail to see why a judge should be the one to make a decision on the treatment that the child receives. Forgive me, but wasn't the death penalty abolished in the sixties? It is the NHS that should be making the decisions, but alas, the simply don't have the balls to make it. In the situation where the nhs and parents cannot agree that's where the court come in. Someone has to look at both sides and make the decision. Whole thing has turned into a farce
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| Mr Palaceman 11 Jul 17 10.50am |
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The parents should be allowed to do everything they can for their child. Ashya King would not be alive today if the doctors had had their way.
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| Harpo Oxfordshire 11 Jul 17 10.54am |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Agree with point no.1...I cant help but think they're blinded by their own selfishness...they will never be able to move on until they accept the poor little mite would be better off at peace. To say his 'fighting' is to ignore the fact that its machines that are keeping him alive. Also...if they get take this risk who will they expect the to foot the bill for the rest of his life?
My next door neighbour has a girl of a similar age. Admirably, (and I'm not sure how I would cope under those circumstances) the parents sacrifice everything for their little mite. So I do have sympathy for the Gard's. I cannot claim to understand what they are going through, but I couldn't criticise them for a single moment.
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| Mr Palaceman 11 Jul 17 11.07am |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Agree with point no.1...I cant help but think they're blinded by their own selfishness...they will never be able to move on until they accept the poor little mite would be better off at peace. To say his 'fighting' is to ignore the fact that its machines that are keeping him alive. Also...if they get take this risk who will they expect the to foot the bill for the rest of his life? Wasn't 1.3 million raised on their behalf for the treatment? Even if that wasn't the case, what difference would that make. There are many sick children that will need support for the rest of their lives. Do you think that they should not get that support?
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| Spiderman Horsham 11 Jul 17 11.23am |
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Originally posted by Mr Palaceman
The parents should be allowed to do everything they can for their child. Ashya King would not be alive today if the doctors had had their way. I agree totally with this. As a parent I would not want to live forever thinking "what if".
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| kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 11 Jul 17 11.25am |
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I have followed this case closely. As a father of a boy born 4 months premature weighing only 1lb 12ozs I can relate in some way to this case. We were asked on several occasions in the first few weeks to give some real thought to turning off his machine. I can't explain what it's like to be given something like that to think about... Essentially being asked to play god with your child's life. Myself and my Wife talked, cried and had some very hard decisions to make. The hospital seemed certain that he would have no quality of life due to a severe brain bleed he had suffered at 2 days old but they could not tell us for DEFINITE that this would be the case. So we kept going and he is now a happy little 3 year old. Yes he has some strength and sight issues and he has epilepsy but on the whole he will lead a relatively normal life. I really do feel for his parents bit I do hate the way that this poor little boys life has turned into a media circus.
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| thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 11 Jul 17 11.44am |
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Originally posted by Mr Palaceman
The parents should be allowed to do everything they can for their child. Ashya King would not be alive today if the doctors had had their way. agree with this as well, I cant even imagine what they are going through, as for the press well what do we expect?
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| Mr Palaceman 11 Jul 17 11.47am |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I have followed this case closely. As a father of a boy born 4 months premature weighing only 1lb 12ozs I can relate in some way to this case. We were asked on several occasions in the first few weeks to give some real thought to turning off his machine. I can't explain what it's like to be given something like that to think about... Essentially being asked to play god with your child's life. Myself and my Wife talked, cried and had some very hard decisions to make. The hospital seemed certain that he would have no quality of life due to a severe brain bleed he had suffered at 2 days old but they could not tell us for DEFINITE that this would be the case. So we kept going and he is now a happy little 3 year old. Yes he has some strength and sight issues and he has epilepsy but on the whole he will lead a relatively normal life. I really do feel for his parents bit I do hate the way that this poor little boys life has turned into a media circus. Must have been an extremely tough time for you, glad your son is a happy child...
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 11 Jul 17 11.50am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I agree totally with this. As a parent I would not want to live forever thinking "what if". This is the thing and it's a very difficult area to discuss. But it's so they don't live with the what if. What about the child. He is being kept alive by a machine and has absolutely no quality of life and never will have. The treatment may help some of the symptoms but it will not cure him or make him get better in that sense. His mother keeps talking about him being able to ride a bike. I can understand she had that dream for her child when she gave birth but eventually reality and rational thinking needs to be paramount over your emotions. Anyone can be kept going by a machine doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. I can't be alone in thinking the time they have left with him could be spent actually being at his side instead of doing the rounds of t.v. shows and shouting out in court rooms.
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