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Stirlingsays 24 Jun 17 11.51pm | |
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With Frank de Boer most likely being our next entrance into the managerial lion's den it looks like we are going to be playing the 'Ajax' way. I would be interested to know your thoughts on how this is likely to affect our squad. Who do we have that can play 'total football' and who is likely to be heading for the exit?
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Qwijibo Bournemouth 24 Jun 17 11.59pm | |
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Who knows. Our most successful managers have been pretty direct, and pardew attempted expansive. But his failure doesn't mean they're not capable, depends on the coach. Remember Tony Adams' renaissance under Wenger? An old dog with new tricks.
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coulsdoneagle London 25 Jun 17 12.13am | |
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So this is all my opinion based on the ball playing abilities of the players I have seen in my time watching them play. You may disagree but people like Macca I think are great players but I'm not sold on their ability to play the ball on the deck. There are other players like Papa who I love but a calm head playing out from the back is not how I would describe him, he bombs forward but is rash and is prone to poor control in my opinion. So here is the list. I have forgotten loads I'm sure. CAN Cabaye
Damo MAYBE Wickham I think it's really important that whoever we bring in in defence has to be able to play out from the back. RB is even more of a priority now and I think it is vital we get someone like Davide Santon who is classy on the ball to replace Ward.
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ex hibitionist Hastings 25 Jun 17 12.17am | |
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pre Coppell we always played pretty light weight football - as for our total footballers I would say ... erm... we haven't got any. Vision and philosophy are great in the long term but I hope he just tries to get 3 points v Huddersfield and reconvenes on Monday morning for the following Saturday etc Re FDB I'm hopeful but I'm not entirely confident but fortunately I know f*ck all about football
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Mad4palace 25 Jun 17 12.32am | |
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Those capable, starting from the back: Hennessey, Mandanda are both comfortable with their feet, Speroni isn't too bad either
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Stirlingsays 25 Jun 17 2.07am | |
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Originally posted by Qwijibo
Who knows. Our most successful managers have been pretty direct, and pardew attempted expansive. But his failure doesn't mean they're not capable, depends on the coach. Remember Tony Adams' renaissance under Wenger? An old dog with new tricks. Yeah, Pardew was unlucky with injuries as well.
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Stirlingsays 25 Jun 17 2.10am | |
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Cheers guys some informative stuff.
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Jamesrichards8 25 Jun 17 2.57am | |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
So this is all my opinion based on the ball playing abilities of the players I have seen in my time watching them play. You may disagree but people like Macca I think are great players but I'm not sold on their ability to play the ball on the deck. There are other players like Papa who I love but a calm head playing out from the back is not how I would describe him, he bombs forward but is rash and is prone to poor control in my opinion. So here is the list. I have forgotten loads I'm sure. CAN Cabaye
Damo MAYBE Wickham I think it's really important that whoever we bring in in defence has to be able to play out from the back. RB is even more of a priority now and I think it is vital we get someone like Davide Santon who is classy on the ball to replace Ward. I wouldn't agree with any of those in the 'cant' column except for damo, sake and maybe souare. Hennessey's strength is his distribution. And I wouldn't have put benteke in the definite 'can' column. He was best receiving a long ball with his back to goal
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coulsdoneagle London 25 Jun 17 3.19am | |
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
I wouldn't agree with any of those in the 'cant' column except for damo, sake and maybe souare. Hennessey's strength is his distribution. And I wouldn't have put benteke in the definite 'can' column. He was best receiving a long ball with his back to goal Benteke has always been tidy with his feet. Look at his goal against Chelsea as an example. He has way more to his game than being a lump. Hennessy has got terrible distribution he can't play it short and his long kicks and throws are not great either. Dann isn't a ball playing cb. He is better than Damo but he isn't great. Kelly is another one I can't see any evidence of either of them having any ball playing ability. Anyway all opinion at the end of the day.
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rollercoaster Cornwall 25 Jun 17 5.57am | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
pre Coppell we always played pretty light weight football - as for our total footballers I would say ... erm... we haven't got any. Vision and philosophy are great in the long term but I hope he just tries to get 3 points v Huddersfield and reconvenes on Monday morning for the following Saturday etc Re FDB I'm hopeful but I'm not entirely confident but fortunately I know f*ck all about football I agree, not confident, do not think we have a squad to play the Ajax way - pressing from the front - NO, percentage play in midfield - NO, playing the ball out from the back - 100% NO.
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dreamwaverider London 25 Jun 17 6.05am | |
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Although it sounds like Sakho will not join, if he does I would say he is deffo a can player.
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BarEagle Monmouth 25 Jun 17 7.12am | |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
Benteke has always been tidy with his feet. Look at his goal against Chelsea as an example. He has way more to his game than being a lump. Hennessy has got terrible distribution he can't play it short and his long kicks and throws are not great either. Dann isn't a ball playing cb. He is better than Damo but he isn't great. Kelly is another one I can't see any evidence of either of them having any ball playing ability. Anyway all opinion at the end of the day. Can't agree with that. Hennessey has his faults but his kicking and throws are very, very good. The final phrase is an over used one by Trollo 😉
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