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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 09 May 17 4.50pm
UKipper facing bankruptcy [Link] I don't know what the verbatim comments were in this case but it is not uncommon for politicians to express opinions as facts. A rather unpleasant subject to "lie" about but should she be made bankrupt and if so shouldn't this be repeated across all parties when people make unfounded comments? the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 09 May 17 4.50pm

UKipper facing bankruptcy

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I don't know what the verbatim comments were in this case but it is not uncommon for politicians to express opinions as facts. A rather unpleasant subject to "lie" about but should she be made bankrupt and if so shouldn't this be repeated across all parties when people make unfounded comments?

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 May 17 4.59pm
It's quite something when politicians can successfully sue for slander when called out for being the torpid, self-serving arseholes most of them are. A dangerous precedent. Edited by Cucking Funt (09 May 2017 5.00pm) Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 09 May 17 4.59pm

It's quite something when politicians can successfully sue for slander when called out for being the torpid, self-serving arseholes most of them are.

A dangerous precedent.

Edited by Cucking Funt (09 May 2017 5.00pm)

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 May 17 5.03pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch UKipper facing bankruptcy [Link] I don't know what the verbatim comments were in this case but it is not uncommon for politicians to express opinions as facts. A rather unpleasant subject to "lie" about but should she be made bankrupt and if so shouldn't this be repeated across all parties when people make unfounded comments? I'd imagine those comments were echoed across the Internet as being fact. Which isn't good.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 09 May 17 5.03pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

UKipper facing bankruptcy

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I'd imagine those comments were echoed across the Internet as being fact. Which isn't good.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 09 May 17 5.17pm
Its really difficult to actually lose a slander case as the respondent. Fk her, speech isn't free of consequences and politicians who cannot back up their public statements should be held accountable. Quote Ms Collins claimed Rotherham MPs Sir Kevin Barron, John Healey and Sarah Champion knew about child exploitation in the town but did not intervene. Quote** that they acted out of political correctness, political cowardice or political selfishness and were guilty of misconduct so grave that it was or should be criminal, as it aided the perpetrators. Without evidence, that's basically a text book example of Slander and Libel. It was designed to give benefit to her and or UKIP, at the expense of their reputation. Ouchy. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 09 May 17 5.17pm

Its really difficult to actually lose a slander case as the respondent.

F**k her, speech isn't free of consequences and politicians who cannot back up their public statements should be held accountable.

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Ms Collins claimed Rotherham MPs Sir Kevin Barron, John Healey and Sarah Champion knew about child exploitation in the town but did not intervene.

Quote that they acted out of political correctness, political cowardice or political selfishness and were guilty of misconduct so grave that it was or should be criminal, as it aided the perpetrators.

Without evidence, that's basically a text book example of Slander and Libel. It was designed to give benefit to her and or UKIP, at the expense of their reputation.

Ouchy.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 09 May 17 5.18pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt It's quite something when politicians can successfully sue for slander when called out for being the torpid, self-serving arseholes most of them are. A dangerous precedent. Edited by Cucking Funt (09 May 2017 5.00pm) I think she'd have been alright if she said that. Accusing them of criminal neglect and essentially aiding and abetting child rape is probably a step to far for politics. Even if its Leon Brittan. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 09 May 17 5.18pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

It's quite something when politicians can successfully sue for slander when called out for being the torpid, self-serving arseholes most of them are.

A dangerous precedent.

Edited by Cucking Funt (09 May 2017 5.00pm)

I think she'd have been alright if she said that. Accusing them of criminal neglect and essentially aiding and abetting child rape is probably a step to far for politics. Even if its Leon Brittan.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 09 May 17 5.34pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I'd imagine those comments were echoed across the Internet as being fact. Which isn't good. I don't disagree but there's plenty of examples where politicians on all sides will accuse another of something that is patently not true. maybe more should sue and then they can concentrate on facts the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 09 May 17 5.34pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I'd imagine those comments were echoed across the Internet as being fact. Which isn't good.

I don't disagree but there's plenty of examples where politicians on all sides will accuse another of something that is patently not true.

maybe more should sue and then they can concentrate on facts

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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legaleagle 09 May 17 7.12pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt It's quite something when politicians can successfully sue for slander when called out for being the torpid, self-serving arseholes most of them are. A dangerous precedent. Edited by Cucking Funt (09 May 2017 5.00pm) She called them somewhat more than that: "Ms Collins claimed Rotherham MPs Sir Kevin Barron, John Healey and Sarah Champion knew about child exploitation in the town but did not intervene. She made the comments in a speech at a UKIP conference a month after a report found that about 1,400 children in the area had been abused between 1997 and 2013. She also expressed the opinion that they acted out of political correctness, political cowardice or political selfishness and were guilty of misconduct so grave that it was or should be criminal, as it aided the perpetrators." Its not a precedent at all...being able to sue if you're in public office (or just an ordinarily person) and someone inaccurately says you are guilty of criminal conduct aiding child exploitation...what's so terrible about that? Its been a fixed part of traditional English law for centuries...I thought Brexiteers were all in favour of traditional English law... Edited by legaleagle (09 May 2017 7.14pm)
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legaleagle

09 May 17 7.12pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

It's quite something when politicians can successfully sue for slander when called out for being the torpid, self-serving arseholes most of them are.

A dangerous precedent.

Edited by Cucking Funt (09 May 2017 5.00pm)

She called them somewhat more than that:

"Ms Collins claimed Rotherham MPs Sir Kevin Barron, John Healey and Sarah Champion knew about child exploitation in the town but did not intervene.
She made the comments in a speech at a UKIP conference a month after a report found that about 1,400 children in the area had been abused between 1997 and 2013.
She also expressed the opinion that they acted out of political correctness, political cowardice or political selfishness and were guilty of misconduct so grave that it was or should be criminal, as it aided the perpetrators."

Its not a precedent at all...being able to sue if you're in public office (or just an ordinarily person) and someone inaccurately says you are guilty of criminal conduct aiding child exploitation...what's so terrible about that?

Its been a fixed part of traditional English law for centuries...I thought Brexiteers were all in favour of traditional English law...

Edited by legaleagle (09 May 2017 7.14pm)

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Sportyteacher London 09 May 17 7.20pm
Best book by a million miles if you really want to find out about the skulduggery occurring within our political system is: Parliament Ltd by Martin Williams. A MUST-READ for anybody who has the opportunity to vote. You'll take a different slant upon things once you have read this factual publication. Attachment: Unknown-188.jpeg (6.77Kb)
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Sportyteacher

London 09 May 17 7.20pm

Best book by a million miles if you really want to find out about the skulduggery occurring within our political system is:

Parliament Ltd by Martin Williams.

A MUST-READ for anybody who has the opportunity to vote. You'll take a different slant upon things once you have read this factual publication.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 May 17 9.26pm
Originally posted by legaleagle She called them somewhat more than that: "Ms Collins claimed Rotherham MPs Sir Kevin Barron, John Healey and Sarah Champion knew about child exploitation in the town but did not intervene. She made the comments in a speech at a UKIP conference a month after a report found that about 1,400 children in the area had been abused between 1997 and 2013. She also expressed the opinion that they acted out of political correctness, political cowardice or political selfishness and were guilty of misconduct so grave that it was or should be criminal, as it aided the perpetrators." Its not a precedent at all...being able to sue if you're in public office (or just an ordinarily person) and someone inaccurately says you are guilty of criminal conduct aiding child exploitation...what's so terrible about that? Its been a fixed part of traditional English law for centuries...I thought Brexiteers were all in favour of traditional English law... Edited by legaleagle (09 May 2017 7.14pm) Well, none of the MPs involved seemed to show much interest in what was happening in Rotherham (feel free to link to anything that suggests otherwise). We know that the police and social services did know and did nothing and something must have filtered back to the relevant MPs at some point. Collins' choice of phrase could have been better, I suppose, but she's clearly rattled a few cages. Bottom line is that these three MPs did indeed do nothing. She should have left it at that. I'll ignore your puerile Brexit reference. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 09 May 17 9.26pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

She called them somewhat more than that:

Its been a fixed part of traditional English law for centuries...I thought Brexiteers were all in favour of traditional English law...

Edited by legaleagle (09 May 2017 7.14pm)

Well, none of the MPs involved seemed to show much interest in what was happening in Rotherham (feel free to link to anything that suggests otherwise). We know that the police and social services did know and did nothing and something must have filtered back to the relevant MPs at some point.

Collins' choice of phrase could have been better, I suppose, but she's clearly rattled a few cages. Bottom line is that these three MPs did indeed do nothing. She should have left it at that.

I'll ignore your puerile Brexit reference.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 09 May 17 9.29pm
Originally posted by legaleagle She called them somewhat more than that: "Ms Collins claimed Rotherham MPs Sir Kevin Barron, John Healey and Sarah Champion knew about child exploitation in the town but did not intervene. She made the comments in a speech at a UKIP conference a month after a report found that about 1,400 children in the area had been abused between 1997 and 2013. She also expressed the opinion that they acted out of political correctness, political cowardice or political selfishness and were guilty of misconduct so grave that it was or should be criminal, as it aided the perpetrators." Its not a precedent at all...being able to sue if you're in public office (or just an ordinarily person) and someone inaccurately says you are guilty of criminal conduct aiding child exploitation...what's so terrible about that? Its been a fixed part of traditional English law for centuries...I thought Brexiteers were all in favour of traditional English law... Edited by legaleagle (09 May 2017 7.14pm) Ah Rumpole...I wondered how long before you turned up? Pro USA & Israel
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