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Stirlingsays 27 Apr 17 8.04pm | |
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According to Joe Biden, if you're drunk and having sex you are being raped. Feck....and there was I thinking it was mandatory.
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bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 28 Apr 17 10.42am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
According to Joe Biden, if you're drunk and having sex you are being raped. Feck....and there was I thinking it was mandatory. But how does the sheep know i am drunk?
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npn Crowborough 28 Apr 17 10.46am | |
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What if you're both drunk? Are you both being raped, or do you have to undergo a breath test - highest blood alcohol reading is the victim?
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jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Apr 17 10.49am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
According to Joe Biden, if you're drunk and having sex you are being raped. Feck....and there was I thinking it was mandatory. Only if you're drunk around Cuckings. Problem is, that whilst this clearly isn't true, you have to take it in the context of how many US politicians and judges view the idea that the victim being drunk, is somehow a defence against a charge of rape. When you have some people claiming that it wasn't rape, even though they were unconscious, because they consent whilst drunk and getting reduced or suspended sentences as a result - you kind of end up in a situation where you may have to approach this kind of definition in order to protect women. Absurd as it sounds, the US has a massive problem with absurdly stupid statements and preconceptions about rape and it somehow being the fault of the victim - even when there is substantial evidence to the contrary.
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becky over the moon 28 Apr 17 11.06am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Only if you're drunk around Cuckings. Problem is, that whilst this clearly isn't true, you have to take it in the context of how many US politicians and judges view the idea that the victim being drunk, is somehow a defence against a charge of rape. When you have some people claiming that it wasn't rape, even though they were unconscious, because they consent whilst drunk and getting reduced or suspended sentences as a result - you kind of end up in a situation where you may have to approach this kind of definition in order to protect women. How about the old fashioned idea that women (in this supposedly feminist driven era)take responsibility for themselves? If a woman is drugged or plied with alcohol unknowingly, then that is a whole different ball game, but if a woman gets herself so blind drunk that she doesn't know whether, if, or who she is having sex with then that is her prerogative, but to me she then has no grounds for complaint. If she is 'taken advantage' of then as my Granny used to say, she'll have learned a very useful lesson in survival the hard way!
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jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Apr 17 11.18am | |
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Originally posted by becky
If a woman is drugged or plied with alcohol unknowingly, then that is a whole different ball game, but if a woman gets herself so blind drunk that she doesn't know whether, if, or who she is having sex with then that is her prerogative, but to me she then has no grounds for complaint. If she is 'taken advantage' of then as my Granny used to say, she'll have learned a very useful lesson in survival the hard way! Because men can get drunk and not expect to be raped. How about men take some responsibility for a change - If you're having sex with someone who is unconscious or completely drunk, you're a rapist, and a piece of s**t. Why do we make all these pathetic excuses to protect men from taking any kind of responsibility for their actions. Maybe its me, but when I see a woman, who is puking on her shoes, or incapable of speaking, I don't think 'oh sexy'. I like most men, don't feel the need to put my p**** into every possible woman, irrespective of whether they'd enjoy the experience or not. Even when I'm really drunk. I think its an insult to men everywhere, to protect people who don't have control over the behaviour once they see a drunk girl.
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Michaelawt85 Bexley 28 Apr 17 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
But how does the sheep know i am drunk? Velcro gloves on the wrong hands is a clue
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Stirlingsays 28 Apr 17 11.41am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Because men can get drunk and not expect to be raped. How about men take some responsibility for a change - If you're having sex with someone who is unconscious or completely drunk, you're a rapist, and a piece of s**t. Why do we make all these pathetic excuses to protect men from taking any kind of responsibility for their actions. Maybe its me, but when I see a woman, who is puking on her shoes, or incapable of speaking, I don't think 'oh sexy'. I like most men, don't feel the need to put my p**** into every possible woman, irrespective of whether they'd enjoy the experience or not. Even when I'm really drunk. I think its an insult to men everywhere, to protect people who don't have control over the behaviour once they see a drunk girl. It's not about protecting men or women. It's about fairness and objectivity. Anyone who makes statements about what constitutes ability to give consent as some kind of fact make very dodgy statements in my view.....they may be correct and maybe not. Not everyone has the same tolerance levels. I've worked in a nightclub in the past and indeed anyone who's spent any significant time in one knows just how tricky this is. I think it should always be kept to an individual case basis.
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Stirlingsays 28 Apr 17 11.42am | |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
But how does the sheep know i am drunk? Who cares, just enjoy it.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 28 Apr 17 11.46am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Because men can get drunk and not expect to be raped. How about men take some responsibility for a change - If you're having sex with someone who is unconscious or completely drunk, you're a rapist, and a piece of s**t. Why do we make all these pathetic excuses to protect men from taking any kind of responsibility for their actions. Maybe its me, but when I see a woman, who is puking on her shoes, or incapable of speaking, I don't think 'oh sexy'. I like most men, don't feel the need to put my p**** into every possible woman, irrespective of whether they'd enjoy the experience or not. Even when I'm really drunk. I think its an insult to men everywhere, to protect people who don't have control over the behaviour once they see a drunk girl. bit of perspective, completely drunk people have sex with each other every day all over the world. They're not all pieces of sh1t and rapists.
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Part Time James 28 Apr 17 11.54am | |
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I don't drink, does that mean I can give up on being raped?
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jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Apr 17 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's not about protecting men or women. It's about fairness and objectivity. Anyone who makes statements about what constitutes ability to give consent as some kind of fact make very dodgy statements in my view.....they may be correct and maybe not. Not everyone has the same tolerance levels. I've worked in a nightclub in the past and indeed anyone who's spent any significant time in one knows just how tricky this is. I think it should always be kept to an individual case basis. Remember though that the law includes whether its reasonable for the person who has consent to believe it was given. So if you meet someone in a nightclub, you're drunk, they're drunk, and they go home with you and you have sex, then its not rape (provided you don't actually rape them). Which I think is a reasonable grounds. There kind of is an expectation with nightclubs that 'you may be there to meet people'. But I think its different if your also the staff there (professionalism). However, if you happen to be say a taxi driver who picks up a drunk girl, or man, and they're very drunk and you have sex with them, then it is rape - Because its a predatory action, you're stone cold so its reasonable for you to not believe you have consent. Problem is, we as a society, promote the idea of consent as being a technicality to men, and that women are something to have sex with. Phrases like 'any holes a goal', 'they're all pink on the inside' etc promote this idea that provided you can get a yes, by any means, then your clear to go.
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