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TheBigToePunt 05 Mar 17 5.04pm | |
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Leaving aside whether you think Pulis deserved the chants yesterday or to keep the money and have a stand named after him, can anyone explain to me why he didn't just sit tight until after the season had started, pocket the money and then resign? I mean why risk it all to get the cash a few weeks earlier, if he could have taken it fair and square and then resigned at (for instance) the closing of the transfer window once the club had failed to sign his targets? It is clear that he didn't have a club lined up or anything. As I understand it he was due a bonus for keeping us up, not for loyalty. I get that he lied to parish etc but what did he gain by taking the risk? Also, parish won the case because Pulis obviously intended to resign and lied about it, but so what? The bonus was for keeping us up, not for keeping us up and then staying with us for a certain period of time thereafter. Or was it? Does anyone actually know?
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bexleydave Barnehurst 05 Mar 17 5.16pm | |
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Those are all excellent questions. I have never really understood the details of the case and I'm not aware they've ever been made public. Whatever the rights and wrongs of it, my question is what has his keeping us in the PL been worth to the club since? Even if we were legally in the right to pursue the case, I have never wavered from believing we looked a bit cheap pursuing it. I don't suppose we'll ever get to know why he really left like that.
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Ray in Houston Houston 05 Mar 17 5.19pm | |
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I'm not aware of there being any reporting on Pulis' motivation. It was a bizarre sequence of decisions by him to be sure. The only thing I can think of is that he had another gig lined up that was time sensitive, but then fell through quickly after he freed himself from his Palace contract. It would be hilarious if it turns out that his new employer binned him once they realised that he'd do something as c***ish as he did to CPFC. Karma's a bitch. Edited by Ray in Houston (05 Mar 2017 5.21pm)
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 05 Mar 17 5.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
I'm not aware of there being any reporting on Pulis' motivation. It was a bizarre sequence of decisions by him to be sure. The only thing I can think of is that he had another gig lined up that was time sensitive, but then fell through quickly after he freed himself from his Palace contract. It would be hilarious if it turns out that his new employer binned him once they realised that he'd do something as c***ish as he did to CPFC. Karma's a bitch. Edited by Ray in Houston (05 Mar 2017 5.21pm) the highlighted stuff is probably the pivotal bit. He deserved the bonus, but 'Breach of Contract' makes everything void. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (05 Mar 2017 5.26pm)
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bexleydave Barnehurst 05 Mar 17 5.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
I'm not aware of there being any reporting on Pulis' motivation. It was a bizarre sequence of decisions by him to be sure. The only thing I can think of is that he had another gig lined up that was time sensitive, but then fell through quickly after he freed himself from his Palace contract. It would be hilarious if it turns out that his new employer binned him once they realised that he'd do something as c***ish as he did to CPFC. Karma's a bitch.
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essetwentyone london 05 Mar 17 5.33pm | |
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By lying to Parish he broke his contract and by leaving on the eve of a new season he left the club in a precarious position which could have resulted in our relegation thus negating his previous success of keeping us up - for that he is liable as decided by the arbitration panel.
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TheBigToePunt 05 Mar 17 5.34pm | |
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Perhaps that's what it is Forest, breach of contract? Presumably there isn't a clause in managers deals to allow them to resign subject to a notice period like most of us. I suppose once you ask the club to cancel the contract you can't benefit from its terms? Still doesn't entirely make sense though.
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babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 05 Mar 17 5.50pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Leaving aside whether you think Pulis deserved the chants yesterday or to keep the money and have a stand named after him, can anyone explain to me why he didn't just sit tight until after the season had started, pocket the money and then resign? I mean why risk it all to get the cash a few weeks earlier, if he could have taken it fair and square and then resigned at (for instance) the closing of the transfer window once the club had failed to sign his targets? It is clear that he didn't have a club lined up or anything. As I understand it he was due a bonus for keeping us up, not for loyalty. I get that he lied to parish etc but what did he gain by taking the risk? Also, parish won the case because Pulis obviously intended to resign and lied about it, but so what? The bonus was for keeping us up, not for keeping us up and then staying with us for a certain period of time thereafter. Or was it? Does anyone actually know? I thought the deal with the bonus was twofold. Keeping us up AND remaining at the club till a certain date minimum.
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Midlands Eagle 05 Mar 17 5.53pm | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Those are all excellent questions. I have never really understood the details of the case and I'm not aware they've ever been made public. Whatever the rights and wrongs of it, my question is what has his keeping us in the PL been worth to the club since? Even if we were legally in the right to pursue the case, I have never wavered from believing we looked a bit cheap pursuing it. I don't suppose we'll ever get to know why he really left like that. I agree and think that whatever steps Parish takes to enforce the judgement will make us look even cheaper as I'm sure that most people (except Palace supporters) will think that he earned the bonus by keeping us in the Premiership and look at us as the club that is happy to shaft it's managers as well as it's suppliers, If and it's a big if Pulis had been approached by West Ham he could have just waited a week to fulfil his contractual obligations and then ask Parish to be released from his contract much as Dougie Freedman did before him which is why that conspiracy theory doesn't make sense.
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Midlands Eagle 05 Mar 17 5.56pm | |
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Originally posted by babylonjohn
I also suspect he was unhappy that Parish hadn't given him a blank cheque book and more say. Im sure he would have rather spent money on several 7ft defenders instead of getting Wilf back from man.u. That seems like the view of a Palace supporter with tunnel vision for two reasons. Firstly there would have been an outline agreement with Parish about how much would be available and secondly he hasn't been spending West Brom's money on several 7ft defenders has he
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cpfc1976 Reading 05 Mar 17 6.33pm | |
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We don't know the reason he left but he did put himself before the club whom had/were giving him millions of pounds. That is his prerogative. He kept us up and did an amazing job. He left when he did and it left us in the lurch big time and I have no sympathy for him whatsoever. Felt exactly the same when Dowie left like he did. Frankly these people do fantastically well out of football, I don't shed one tear if the reason for leaving is that great they can't wait a week or so for getting several million or however much it was. Lots of people stay in minimum wage jobs for years, hating what they do, but still turning up every day because they aren't as fortunate as TP and many others in football. His leaving left us in a bad way and if anyone looks cheap it's him in my opinion. Screw him.
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palacer Crystal Palace 05 Mar 17 6.35pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
Leaving aside whether you think Pulis deserved the chants yesterday or to keep the money and have a stand named after him, can anyone explain to me why he didn't just sit tight until after the season had started, pocket the money and then resign? I mean why risk it all to get the cash a few weeks earlier, if he could have taken it fair and square and then resigned at (for instance) the closing of the transfer window once the club had failed to sign his targets? It is clear that he didn't have a club lined up or anything. As I understand it he was due a bonus for keeping us up, not for loyalty. I get that he lied to parish etc but what did he gain by taking the risk? Also, parish won the case because Pulis obviously intended to resign and lied about it, but so what? The bonus was for keeping us up, not for keeping us up and then staying with us for a certain period of time thereafter. Or was it? Does anyone actually know? It looks like by the timing day before start of season. that he got his money and then tried to hold club to ransom for more or he d leave. That is only what I think may of hapened though. we will never know for sure.
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