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Jules111 Preston, Lancashire 27 Nov 16 1.56pm | |
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Going to get loads of abuse for this but I don't believe AP should be held fully responsible for this latest miserable run, and the players need to take a look at themselves. I cannot remember when a team last scored a good goal against us. The management can only do so much in training and plan for matches. In my view some of the players have been a f***ing liability... Mandanda - has let in several poor efforts since the start of the season, especially at Burnley where he was awful. Ward - one of the only players who always puts his body on the line and gives 100 %, unable to get forward as much as usual. Dann - it is like his s*** twin brother has turned up since being made captain, his marking and organisation has been nothing short of pathetic. Tomkins - looks good in the opposition box but absolutely horrendous in ours and doesn't seem to know the basics of marking. Kelly - has cost us numerous goals, inexplicably passing to De Bruyne and gifting City their goal last week. Cabaye - I thought he had been decent of late, but that failure to clear the ball yesterday was unreal, 80k a week to have a touch like a rapist and costs us a goal. Mcarthur - always gives 100% like Wardy but his passing has been terrible of late. Zaha - cannot fault Wilf as he is always a threat and finally delivering an end product. Puncheon - has returned to his anonymous self and looked like a right ponce backing out that header yesterday causing a free kick which they scored from. Townsend - looked like a right bargain a few months ago but has severely dropped in form, sulking and moaning because he can't play on the right. Gives away a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas which lead to goals. Benteke- scored a few goals but not enough for 32m. His defending yesterday was an embarrassment costing us a few goals. Granted he's a striker but a Sunday league striker could defend better. Wickham - such a shame he got injured as he has looked good and a constant threat. Hennessey - sufferring twin brother syndrome like Scott Dann. Sako - looks like he's swallowed a fridge, slow and laboured.
He should be given 2 games to save his job. Thick and thin. PTID!!!
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auk 27 Nov 16 2.15pm | |
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With you all the way, Jules111. The likelihood is that Pardew is working his socks off and doing everything right - but the results are coming out wrong. These things happen to all of us. In case some posters had 't noticed, it's the way life works. With each fresh setback, Pards will learn something new and become a better manager - to the long- term benefit of the club. In any case, isn't it one of the first rules of decency that you don't kick a man when he's down - least of all as part of a frenzied, hysterical, baying mob? Right now the bloke will be feeling more wretched than any of us. Give him a break. Let's show the football world we've got a bit of class - by getting right behind him and the team on Saturday. Edited by auk (27 Nov 2016 2.15pm)
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Michaelawt85 Bexley 27 Nov 16 2.19pm | |
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Does anyone agree with me whilst on the subject of players that zaha and co looked very foolish celebrating the first goal in such theatrical fashion when it was by no means job done game over. Maybe it's because I watched it later knowing the outcome but it made me bloody angry
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jimruss Sidcup 27 Nov 16 2.20pm | |
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Is exactly the sort of blind faith that will end up with us being relegated. He doesn't deserve a break, he's being paid extremely well for doing a job, a job he is failing at and has consistently failed at for a long time. I agree that the players should be accountable and to be honest should be ashamed of themselves but the buck stops with the tit we have in charge. I don't feel sorry for him and I don't feel any guilt about being part of the frenzied, hysterical, baying mob as you put it. He needs to go and I can't wait until he gets his marching orders
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Seth On a pale blue dot 27 Nov 16 2.21pm | |
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If none of it is his fault why should he only be given 2 more games to save his job? That's not being PTID through "thick and thin"! Personally I think he should've gone last season. Getting to the cup final was the worst thing that could've happened because it kept him in the job. Get rid now. Before it's too late.
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Seth On a pale blue dot 27 Nov 16 2.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Does anyone agree with me whilst on the subject of players that zaha and co looked very foolish celebrating the first goal in such theatrical fashion when it was by no means job done game over. Maybe it's because I watched it later knowing the outcome but it made me bloody angry Probably got the idea from AP doing that pathetic dance in the cup final instead of getting the team set up to defend for their lives for the remaining 10 minutes.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Nov 16 2.25pm | |
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I think this run of games has been very strange, and probably unique in all my very long Palace experience. We obviously have lost the capacity to defend set pieces and see out games we are leading in. Despite that we have often been within a whisker of getting much more from each game. Luck has played a big part in our decline and you cannot control your luck. For most of the game yesterday it seemed we might have sorted out the defence, but then the headless chicken syndrome struck again. We have lost the determination of Delaney, and too many others have lost form and confidence at the same time. They haven't though all become bad players overnight and piling pressure on them isn't going to help. They will be as aware of their failures as everyone else. Pardew has clearly been expecting the players to do their jobs and has been giving them enough time to find their form, knowing what else he has available. He sees them in training and knows their moods and what else is affecting their lives. None of us knows this and every player has outside influences, just as we all do. They aren't machines. They are emotional human beings. I think though he now realises that something has to be changed, if for no other reason than to build some confidence in those that don't get dropped.
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steeleye20 Croydon 27 Nov 16 2.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Jules111
Going to get loads of abuse for this but I don't believe AP should be held fully responsible for this latest miserable run, and the players need to take a look at themselves. I cannot remember when a team last scored a good goal against us. The management can only do so much in training and plan for matches. In my view some of the players have been a f***ing liability... Mandanda - has let in several poor efforts since the start of the season, especially at Burnley where he was awful. Ward - one of the only players who always puts his body on the line and gives 100 %, unable to get forward as much as usual. Dann - it is like his s*** twin brother has turned up since being made captain, his marking and organisation has been nothing short of pathetic. Tomkins - looks good in the opposition box but absolutely horrendous in ours and doesn't seem to know the basics of marking. Kelly - has cost us numerous goals, inexplicably passing to De Bruyne and gifting City their goal last week. Cabaye - I thought he had been decent of late, but that failure to clear the ball yesterday was unreal, 80k a week to have a touch like a rapist and costs us a goal. Mcarthur - always gives 100% like Wardy but his passing has been terrible of late. Zaha - cannot fault Wilf as he is always a threat and finally delivering an end product. Puncheon - has returned to his anonymous self and looked like a right ponce backing out that header yesterday causing a free kick which they scored from. Townsend - looked like a right bargain a few months ago but has severely dropped in form, sulking and moaning because he can't play on the right. Gives away a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas which lead to goals. Benteke- scored a few goals but not enough for 32m. His defending yesterday was an embarrassment costing us a few goals. Granted he's a striker but a Sunday league striker could defend better. Wickham - such a shame he got injured as he has looked good and a constant threat. Hennessey - sufferring twin brother syndrome like Scott Dann. Sako - looks like he's swallowed a fridge, slow and laboured.
He should be given 2 games to save his job. Thick and thin. PTID!!! I looked through your post sure that Delaney would not be there.
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samprior Hamburg 27 Nov 16 2.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Jules111
Going to get loads of abuse for this but I don't believe AP should be held fully responsible for this latest miserable run, and the players need to take a look at themselves. I cannot remember when a team last scored a good goal against us. The management can only do so much in training and plan for matches. In my view some of the players have been a f***ing liability... Mandanda - has let in several poor efforts since the start of the season, especially at Burnley where he was awful. Ward - one of the only players who always puts his body on the line and gives 100 %, unable to get forward as much as usual. Dann - it is like his s*** twin brother has turned up since being made captain, his marking and organisation has been nothing short of pathetic. Tomkins - looks good in the opposition box but absolutely horrendous in ours and doesn't seem to know the basics of marking. Kelly - has cost us numerous goals, inexplicably passing to De Bruyne and gifting City their goal last week. Cabaye - I thought he had been decent of late, but that failure to clear the ball yesterday was unreal, 80k a week to have a touch like a rapist and costs us a goal. Mcarthur - always gives 100% like Wardy but his passing has been terrible of late. Zaha - cannot fault Wilf as he is always a threat and finally delivering an end product. Puncheon - has returned to his anonymous self and looked like a right ponce backing out that header yesterday causing a free kick which they scored from. Townsend - looked like a right bargain a few months ago but has severely dropped in form, sulking and moaning because he can't play on the right. Gives away a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas which lead to goals. Benteke- scored a few goals but not enough for 32m. His defending yesterday was an embarrassment costing us a few goals. Granted he's a striker but a Sunday league striker could defend better. Wickham - such a shame he got injured as he has looked good and a constant threat. Hennessey - sufferring twin brother syndrome like Scott Dann. Sako - looks like he's swallowed a fridge, slow and laboured.
He should be given 2 games to save his job. Thick and thin. PTID!!! I get your sentiment and player form is very worrying. However we know these players can do better...and there is no option to change all the players so that's usually why the manager has to go to bring around change.
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chateauferret 27 Nov 16 2.34pm | |
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Players are supposed to be developed byvtheir coaching. This lot have been getting worse. There's only one thing they all have in coomon and that's Pardew. Man management, tactics, discipline, confidence, fitness, selection, assignment of roles and lines of communication are all defined by him. They were perfectly good players and they've been Pardewed. He's lost some of them (Townsend) and others (Kelly) he's f***ed up so badly they can't function. He's let Cabaye get away with thinking he's Zidane, he's overburdened Dann with a captaincy role that he doesn't suit, he's pi$$ed Puncheon about in the cup final and ever since, he's turned Sako into a lumbering lump and he's assumed that Benteke is God and left him to sink or swim. And I don't know what he's done with Flamimi. Perhaps he's boarded him up under his kitchen floor. The only one still functioning seems to be Zaha.
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Dan Theolmesdaleroad Up north 27 Nov 16 2.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Jules111
Going to get loads of abuse for this but I don't believe AP should be held fully responsible for this latest miserable run, and the players need to take a look at themselves. I cannot remember when a team last scored a good goal against us. The management can only do so much in training and plan for matches. In my view some of the players have been a f***ing liability... Mandanda - has let in several poor efforts since the start of the season, especially at Burnley where he was awful. Ward - one of the only players who always puts his body on the line and gives 100 %, unable to get forward as much as usual. Dann - it is like his s*** twin brother has turned up since being made captain, his marking and organisation has been nothing short of pathetic. Tomkins - looks good in the opposition box but absolutely horrendous in ours and doesn't seem to know the basics of marking. Kelly - has cost us numerous goals, inexplicably passing to De Bruyne and gifting City their goal last week. Cabaye - I thought he had been decent of late, but that failure to clear the ball yesterday was unreal, 80k a week to have a touch like a rapist and costs us a goal. Mcarthur - always gives 100% like Wardy but his passing has been terrible of late. Zaha - cannot fault Wilf as he is always a threat and finally delivering an end product. Puncheon - has returned to his anonymous self and looked like a right ponce backing out that header yesterday causing a free kick which they scored from. Townsend - looked like a right bargain a few months ago but has severely dropped in form, sulking and moaning because he can't play on the right. Gives away a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas which lead to goals. Benteke- scored a few goals but not enough for 32m. His defending yesterday was an embarrassment costing us a few goals. Granted he's a striker but a Sunday league striker could defend better. Wickham - such a shame he got injured as he has looked good and a constant threat. Hennessey - sufferring twin brother syndrome like Scott Dann. Sako - looks like he's swallowed a fridge, slow and laboured.
He should be given 2 games to save his job. Thick and thin. PTID!!!
But it can't just be a coincidence that virtually the whole team has been underperforming to the extent that they have. We've gone from looking like Europa League contenders in 2015 to relegation candidates in 2016, and for that the buck has to stop with Pardew.
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Michaelawt85 Bexley 27 Nov 16 2.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Seth
Probably got the idea from AP doing that pathetic dance in the cup final instead of getting the team set up to defend for their lives for the remaining 10 minutes. A cup final I guess you can excuse but yesterday. I was sitting there shaking my head at it
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