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Croydonlad sydenham 30 Oct 16 12.18am
You know Up until this season I really worried if we could survive in the premier league We now have a team that has enough quality to stay up Yes stay up If any of you expect more than thats just not realistic Look at the quality in this division Even the very worst team Sunderland have a forward that could walk into most top teams in the world , Defoe So , that said , lets build slowly , be thankful and add to our quality We will not go down , thats a certainty And in the meantime its another season of HUGE TV money and to again invest in the squad .
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sydenham 30 Oct 16 12.18am

You know
Up until this season I really worried if we could survive in the premier league
We now have a team that has enough quality to stay up
Yes stay up
If any of you expect more than thats just not realistic
Look at the quality in this division
Even the very worst team Sunderland have a forward that could walk into most top teams in the world , Defoe
So , that said , lets build slowly , be thankful and add to our quality
We will not go down , thats a certainty
And in the meantime its another season of HUGE TV money and to again invest in the squad .

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Oct 16 12.25am
Originally posted by Croydonlad You know Up until this season I really worried if we could survive in the premier league We now have a team that has enough quality to stay up Yes stay up If any of you expect more than thats just not realistic Look at the quality in this division Even the very worst team Sunderland have a forward that could walk into most top teams in the world , Defoe So , that said , lets build slowly , be thankful and add to our quality We will not go down , thats a certainty And in the meantime its another season of HUGE TV money and to again invest in the squad . When survival is not a certainty is when SP will act. Sensible as well unless he has a real technical director to analyse foreign managers which we don't. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 30 Oct 16 12.25am

Originally posted by Croydonlad

When survival is not a certainty is when SP will act. Sensible as well unless he has a real technical director to analyse foreign managers which we don't.

COYP

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palace chick South Croydon 30 Oct 16 1.01am
Our defence is the problem for sure. We have let goals in badly for most of this season due to the back four making mistakes. I don't believe Tomkins and Dann are a good pairing. Dann is the better of the two and should be playing alongside Delaney. That's until we get a decent centre back to play alongside Dann. Perhaps we should put Tomkins at right back for a few games with Ward at left back. However a new centre and left back is urgently required in the next window. Until then we will struggle with our current defenders. It's no good playing well going forward as we have done in our last two and a half matches and shipping eight goals. Delaney and Dann need to stay as our main pairing in the middle but I do realise Delaney is coming to the end of a great Palace time - One of our best servants in recent times.
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South Croydon 30 Oct 16 1.01am

Our defence is the problem for sure. We have let goals in badly for most of this season due to the back four making mistakes. I don't believe Tomkins and Dann are a good pairing. Dann is the better of the two and should be playing alongside Delaney. That's until we get a decent centre back to play alongside Dann. Perhaps we should put Tomkins at right back for a few games with Ward at left back. However a new centre and left back is urgently required in the next window. Until then we will struggle with our current defenders. It's no good playing well going forward as we have done in our last two and a half matches and shipping eight goals. Delaney and Dann need to stay as our main pairing in the middle but I do realise Delaney is coming to the end of a great Palace time - One of our best servants in recent times.

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palace chick South Croydon 30 Oct 16 1.08am
Originally posted by palace chick Our defence is the problem for sure. We have let goals in badly for most of this season due to the back four making mistakes. I don't believe Tomkins and Dann are a good pairing. Dann is the better of the two and should be playing alongside Delaney. That's until we get a decent centre back to play alongside Dann. Perhaps we should put Tomkins at right back for a few games with Ward at left back. However a new centre and left back is urgently required in the next window. Until then we will struggle with our current defenders. It's no good playing well going forward as we have done in our last two and a half matches and shipping eight goals. Delaney and Dann need to stay as our main pairing in the middle but I do realise Delaney is coming to the end of a great Palace time - One of our best servants in recent times. Meant to put this in the Tomkins thread - Sorry! :-)
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South Croydon 30 Oct 16 1.08am

Originally posted by palace chick

Meant to put this in the Tomkins thread - Sorry! :-)

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thai-eagle chiang mai 30 Oct 16 3.46am
Tomkins & Dann are two good defenders, but both a bit slow and need a few games together. Hopefully that will make us more solid than yesterdays's horror show...
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chiang mai 30 Oct 16 3.46am

Tomkins & Dann are two good defenders, but both a bit slow and need a few games together. Hopefully that will make us more solid than yesterdays's horror show...

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iheartcpfc SE25 31 Oct 16 3.07am
survival should not be the expectation for a team Pardew's spent 90 odd mill on (including a striker who is perfect for us but is looking isolated every week).
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SE25 31 Oct 16 3.07am

survival should not be the expectation for a team Pardew's spent 90 odd mill on (including a striker who is perfect for us but is looking isolated every week).

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bexleydave Barnehurst 31 Oct 16 8.46am
Originally posted by iheartcpfc survival should not be the expectation for a team Pardew's spent 90 odd mill on (including a striker who is perfect for us but is looking isolated every week). I agree; the expectations of some are frankly risible. Thank goodness the owners don't think the same. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 31 Oct 16 8.46am

Originally posted by iheartcpfc

survival should not be the expectation for a team Pardew's spent 90 odd mill on (including a striker who is perfect for us but is looking isolated every week).

I agree; the expectations of some are frankly risible. Thank goodness the owners don't think the same.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 31 Oct 16 9.26am
Originally posted by thai-eagle Tomkins & Dann are two good defenders, but both a bit slow and need a few games together. Hopefully that will make us more solid than yesterdays's horror show... That would be the '' horror show '' against the best Liverpool team I've seen in years, would it ? In which we were still very much in the game until their 4th goal ? The only real criticism I have is the defending for the goals they scored from set pieces. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 31 Oct 16 9.26am

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Tomkins & Dann are two good defenders, but both a bit slow and need a few games together. Hopefully that will make us more solid than yesterdays's horror show...

That would be the '' horror show '' against the best Liverpool team I've seen in years, would it ? In which we were still very much in the game until their 4th goal ?

The only real criticism I have is the defending for the goals they scored from set pieces.

Old, Ungifted and White

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bodge 31 Oct 16 2.59pm
Originally posted by bexleydave I agree; the expectations of some are frankly risible. Thank goodness the owners don't think the same. With our poor ground and infrastructure staying up is a good season.
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bodge

31 Oct 16 2.59pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

I agree; the expectations of some are frankly risible. Thank goodness the owners don't think the same.

With our poor ground and infrastructure staying up is a good season.

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chateauferret 31 Oct 16 8.53pm
Originally posted by iheartcpfc survival should not be the expectation for a team Pardew's spent 90 odd mill on (including a striker who is perfect for us but is looking isolated every week). Well, but that sum is abated by sales, of course. We only have one player in the £30m class although a couple of others look like good value and Mandanda came on a free. I think we need a step up in quality in a couple of other departments, especially creative. ============ The Ferret ============
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chateauferret

31 Oct 16 8.53pm

Originally posted by iheartcpfc

survival should not be the expectation for a team Pardew's spent 90 odd mill on (including a striker who is perfect for us but is looking isolated every week).

Well, but that sum is abated by sales, of course. We only have one player in the £30m class although a couple of others look like good value and Mandanda came on a free. I think we need a step up in quality in a couple of other departments, especially creative.

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ParchmoreEagle Belair 31 Oct 16 9.56pm
Originally posted by Croydonlad You know Up until this season I really worried if we could survive in the premier league We now have a team that has enough quality to stay up Yes stay up If any of you expect more than thats just not realistic Look at the quality in this division Even the very worst team Sunderland have a forward that could walk into most top teams in the world , Defoe So , that said , lets build slowly , be thankful and add to our quality We will not go down , thats a certainty And in the meantime its another season of HUGE TV money and to again invest in the squad . My feeling too. Well said. [Link]
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Belair 31 Oct 16 9.56pm

Originally posted by Croydonlad

My feeling too. Well said.

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ParchmoreEagle Belair 31 Oct 16 10.08pm
Originally posted by palace chick Our defence is the problem for sure. We have let goals in badly for most of this season due to the back four making mistakes. I don't believe Tomkins and Dann are a good pairing. Dann is the better of the two and should be playing alongside Delaney. That's until we get a decent centre back to play alongside Dann. Perhaps we should put Tomkins at right back for a few games with Ward at left back. However a new centre and left back is urgently required in the next window. Until then we will struggle with our current defenders. It's no good playing well going forward as we have done in our last two and a half matches and shipping eight goals. Delaney and Dann need to stay as our main pairing in the middle but I do realise Delaney is coming to the end of a great Palace time - One of our best servants in recent times. Good points, part of the problem, but for me it must be our prematch systems. I have little doubt that we have really good players now, and plenty of them, that are simply not getting the best out of them. I don't have a clue what or who it is, but I can see it most games in our poor performances. It seems to me that the players themselves are sorting themselves out to play better - not their coaching staff. When we start trying to analyse bits and pieces of individual games I think we are on the wrong track. Defenders will come under scrutiny for goals conceded, but what if they are put under unreasonable pressure by poor performances in other positions? It's a bit much to keep defending wave after wave of quality attacks. Our few games before the break we were playing possession in the midfield and scoring at will, but that happened only after a very poor first few games. I blamed Pardew, but maybe it's not him, or just him. Maybe it's the very likeable Millen? Too soft? AP too soft? I don't know, but for me the issues are at the prematch stage. [Link]
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Belair 31 Oct 16 10.08pm

Originally posted by palace chick

Good points, part of the problem, but for me it must be our prematch systems. I have little doubt that we have really good players now, and plenty of them, that are simply not getting the best out of them. I don't have a clue what or who it is, but I can see it most games in our poor performances. It seems to me that the players themselves are sorting themselves out to play better - not their coaching staff. When we start trying to analyse bits and pieces of individual games I think we are on the wrong track. Defenders will come under scrutiny for goals conceded, but what if they are put under unreasonable pressure by poor performances in other positions? It's a bit much to keep defending wave after wave of quality attacks. Our few games before the break we were playing possession in the midfield and scoring at will, but that happened only after a very poor first few games. I blamed Pardew, but maybe it's not him, or just him. Maybe it's the very likeable Millen? Too soft? AP too soft? I don't know, but for me the issues are at the prematch stage.

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