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dg1937 Flag 09 Oct 16 10.26am Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

Was chatting to a friend who supports another club and got into a 'who was your first black player' conversation.

Without Google - who do you think was the first black player for Palace? In this context 'black' includes someone of mixed heritage. I'm interested to see if you come up with the same (wrong) name I did.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 09 Oct 16 10.33am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Tommy.

 

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Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 09 Oct 16 10.40am Send a Private Message to Joe Bloggs Add Joe Bloggs as a friend

Tony Collins

 

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eagle in cornwall Flag Made In Thornton Heath. 09 Oct 16 10.53am Send a Private Message to eagle in cornwall Add eagle in cornwall as a friend

Originally posted by Joe Bloggs

Tony Collins

I spoke with Tony a few year's back and surprisingly he didn't agree with that.

 


........................Then along came Johnny Byrne! and the rest, as they say, is history.....................

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dg1937 Flag 09 Oct 16 12.01pm Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

I'm afraid the best I could do was Vince Hilaire, not very good I know. I'd be very interested to hear more about Tony Collins, especially what the man himself had to say (if he wasn't the first, did he say who was?!). Did he experience much racism? I remember the dreadful treatment Clyde Best used to get when he played for West Ham.

I see there's actually a book about him which I'm tempted to get.

 

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dg1937 Flag 09 Oct 16 12.03pm Send a Private Message to dg1937 Add dg1937 as a friend

Originally posted by Joe Bloggs

Tony Collins

Very good. Just to add a topical note (if that's allowed in a nostalgia forum) I distinctly remember Tommy scoring with a free kick under a wall that jumped.

Sorry, I meant to quote chris123.


Edited by dg1937 (09 Oct 2016 12.04pm)

 

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Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 09 Oct 16 3.33pm Send a Private Message to Joe Bloggs Add Joe Bloggs as a friend

I have watched league football at the Palace since the first post ww11 season and Tony Collins was the first black. player that I ever watched.

I have an idea that we signed him from Rochdale but am open to correction on that.

 

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JRW2 Flag Dulwich 09 Oct 16 4.48pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by Joe Bloggs

I have watched league football at the Palace since the first post ww11 season and Tony Collins was the first black. player that I ever watched.

I have an idea that we signed him from Rochdale but am open to correction on that.

No, he left us for Rochdale, whom he also managed for a few years.

 

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ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 10 Oct 16 8.30pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

early 70s Mark Lindsay

 

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PalacePhotoMan Flag Wallington 11 Oct 16 7.24pm Send a Private Message to PalacePhotoMan Add PalacePhotoMan as a friend

Tony Collins joined Palace from Watford in November 1957. He was at Watford for only 3 or 4 months as in May 1957 he played for Torquay at Selhurst, as shown below, challenging Vic Rouse. Jack Edwards is our defender.

He left us in the summer of 1959 and joined Rochdale.

After that he had a long and successful career as a coach and was manager of Rochdale for 7 years from 1960 to 67 (becoming known as the "first black football manager" and also briefly at Bristol City in about 1980. I believe he worked at Man Utd as a scout for many years after that.

I think he would be regarded as our first black player, joining in Nov 1957, but I could be wrong if there was another before him.

CP v Torquay 1.5.1957.jpg Attachment: CP v Torquay 1.5.1957.jpg (135.59Kb)

 


Zaha, Williams, Murray, Ambrose, Scannell.

A 5-man forward line who scored 3 goals in 10 minutes on 27th September 2011 at .......................

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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 12 Oct 16 7.17pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

I did a short piece on him here: [Link]

He has an autobiography just out too: [Link]

 

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moylerg Flag Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 12 Oct 16 7.23pm Send a Private Message to moylerg Add moylerg as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

early 70s Mark Lindsay

My family were friends with his family. He used to get us tickets when I was a teenager. Remember Mark well.

 


Most certainly not European.

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