Starting this topic because of something I posted over in Transfer Talk. In the Marcus Rashford loan suggestion thread I mentioned he is there only viable option as a second striker to Ibrahimovic because Rooney is so bad now you couldn't trust him up-front alone.

My exact post was: "I know this probably sounds dramatic but I wouldn't even have Rooney at Palace as one of our striker options as he has a worse first touch than Frazier Campbell, less athleticism than Wickham and worse finishing than Benteke. He really is a nothing player that the press are refusing to tear to shreds for some reason."

This got me thinking, what players are there that despite playing for a top club they actually wouldn't be wanted by lesser clubs such as ourselves or perhaps even lower.

I really do believe that Rooney wouldn't be an improvement for Palace and still wouldn't be able to pass or finish anymore. When Ronaldo or someone of genuine class goes into a worse team they shine and make it better. See Ronaldo playing for Portugal.

When Rooney plays for England, he should be elevating that team and yet he's still one of the worst players on the pitch, which is why I don't think he'd help even us.

It's such an odd circumstance that a player can be seen as such a vital part of a top European squad and a non-droppable starting 11 player for a team like Manchester United and yet no one else would want him because he's only there because of reputation and wage/image rights.

I tried to think of others but not many sprung to mind. A 35 year old John Terry would still improve all bottom half defenses.

One i can remember from a few years ago was Robert Pires to Aston Villa who was dreadful but did he join them at a time when everyone was expecting him to lift them up (like people would expect Rooney to do for us).

Alberto Moreno is perhaps another undroppable at a top club that wouldn't improve bottom half teams because he's terrible but that's still a stretch as I think he could do a job for us and perhaps be better than Soure.

I stopped reading when you said you wouldn't have Rooney at Palace - no offence, but that's total bollocks.

So your argument is that because Rooney isn't/wasn't as good as Ronaldo or Ibrahimovic, he wouldn't get in to a team who most recently started Chung Yung Lee as the number 10.

You're arguing that England's all time top scorer, and one of the highest goal scorers in Premiership (and Man Utd) history, wouldn't get into a team ahead of Jason Puncheon.

I recommend booking an appointment with your doctor next week. Looks like the funny turn you are having has seriously affected your football judgement!

granted he's not half as good as he was 7 years ago. But He'd still walk into the palace side...

I can sort of see where you're coming from but you are unquestionably wrong about Rooney.

Best player on the pitch in the cup final for example and dragged them past us and up the steps to lift the trophy (still hurts thinking about it).

There should be absolutely not a doubt in any person's mind that even the slightly overweight and definitely on the decline Rooney would walk into our team. Every single game.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show