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 Rubin  26 Jul 16 10.58am |
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Shall we just create a daily terrorism update thread?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 26 Jul 16 11.13am |
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Get used to it people. This is what inaction will get us. Awaits a list of excuses and contrived justifications about immigration policy and how we brought all these attacks on ourselves from liberal apologists.
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Ouzo Dan  Behind you 26 Jul 16 11.24am |
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Man shouted Daesh & slashed an 92 year old priests throat. Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Jul 2016 11.25am)
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| Jacey 26 Jul 16 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Man shouted Daesh & slashed an 85 year old priests throat.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 26 Jul 16 11.31am |
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By allowing mass migration we have allowed the enemy to come among us.
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| Ouzo Dan Behind you 26 Jul 16 11.36am |
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Originally posted by Jacey
Blaming mental health is just a cop out another classic is they're not real Muslims... That's all great & stuff except they only stop reading the Qur'an when they're either eating, s***ting or murdering.. kinda of makes a mockery of non Muslims saying stuff like that. The Quran condones violence. Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Jul 2016 11.37am)
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Jul 16 11.36am |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Man shouted Daesh & slashed an 92 year old priests throat. Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Jul 2016 11.25am) Not wanting to deflect from the facts, but when this was 'Britain First' it wasdn't terrorism. That said, I think its a reality of the situation where we are engaged in a war, that the other side will respond by the best means they have. I don't think we can really separate IS from IS inspired attacks, or IS ordered attacks. Problem is, there isn't much we can actually do about preventing attacks which aren't more complex conspiracies.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Jul 16 11.40am |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Blaming mental health is just a cop out in the majority ofc another classic is they're not real Muslims... That's all great & stuff except they only stop reading the Qur'an when they're either eating, s***ting or murdering.. kinda of makes a mockery of non Muslims saying stuff like that. The Quran condones violence. I think that's true of religion and society in general, that they condone violence in certain situations, and under certain justifications. The Quran also stipulates the importance of living under the rule of law. Fundamentalism functions by focusing on the specifics and dismissing contradictions, or conflicts, to provide a means towards a simple truth. Worrying times though.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Jul 16 11.42am |
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Originally posted by Jacey
Such as when they're the Far Right? Its notable that in two recent German attack the individual in question had undergone mental health treatment and historically extreme ideologies always have an appeal to unstable minds prone to outbursts of rage.
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| Ouzo Dan Behind you 26 Jul 16 11.43am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Not wanting to deflect from the facts, but when this was 'Britain First' it wasdn't terrorism. That said, I think its a reality of the situation where we are engaged in a war, that the other side will respond by the best means they have. I don't think we can really separate IS from IS inspired attacks, or IS ordered attacks. Problem is, there isn't much we can actually do about preventing attacks which aren't more complex conspiracies. I wouldn't call either an act of terror, arguably politicians & priests you could say are strategic targets. This is Isis saying we will not tolerate a false religion in our territory
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| Hrolf The Ganger 26 Jul 16 11.45am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Not wanting to deflect from the facts, but when this was 'Britain First' it wasdn't terrorism. That said, I think its a reality of the situation where we are engaged in a war, that the other side will respond by the best means they have. I don't think we can really separate IS from IS inspired attacks, or IS ordered attacks. Problem is, there isn't much we can actually do about preventing attacks which aren't more complex conspiracies. There is Jamie but will we have the balls to do it? Deportation and incarceration. I know what you will say and I hate the idea myself but as I have asked already and will sadly be asking on a daily basis, based on the current trend, how may will have to die before we take more drastic action? I think the French in particular will be getting quite close now. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Jul 2016 11.46am)
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Jul 16 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
There is Jamie but will we have the balls to do it? Deportation and incarceration. I know what you will say and I hate the idea myself but as I have asked already and will sadly be asking on a daily basis, based on the current trend, how may will have to die before we take more drastic action? I think the French in particular will be getting quite close now. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Jul 2016 11.46am) On the basis of what though. Being a Muslim - that's just internment, which was a disaster in NI, and when we were using it in Iraq, it brought together the people that ended up forming IS. Deportation is only valid where you can really identify people as committing a crime, with granted citizenship, which I don't have a problem with - but then given they're terrorists, shouldn't we imprison them for 30 odd years as allowed by terrorist laws. Can we really deport say the 800,000 Syrian and Libyan refugees accepted in to Germany, on the basis of say ten or 20 people?
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