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Hoof Hearted 18 May 16 10.11am
I was debating with myself whether to put this in General Talk or Fun Talk. Having mulled it over, I opted for here as I think that although this definition is amusing it does carry a serious message.......... Ironically I've had to amend certain words so as not to offend the Hol Profanity filter! What is meant by the modern term referred to as ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’* The definition is found in 4 telegrams at the Truman Library and Museum in Independence, Missouri. The following are copies of four telegrams between President Harry Truman and Gen Douglas MacArthur on the day before the actual signing of the WWII Surrender Agreement in September 1945. The contents of those four telegrams below are exactly as received at the end of the war - not a word has been added or deleted! (see above) (1) Tokyo,Japan 0800-September 1,1945 To: President Harry S Truman From: General D A MacArthur Tomorrow we meet with those yellow-bellied bstards and sign the Surrender Documents, any last minute instructions? (2) Washington, D C 1300-September 1, 1945 To: D A MacArthur From: H S Truman Congratulations, job well done, but you must tone down your obvious dislike of the Japanese when discussing the terms of the surrender with the press, because some of your remarks are fundamentally not politically correct! (3) Tokyo, Japan 1630-September 1, 1945 To: H S Truman From: D A MacArthur and C H Nimitz Wilco Sir, but both Chester and I are somewhat confused, exactly what does the term politically correct mean? (4) Washington, D C 2120-September 1, 1945 To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz From: H S Truman Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of sh*t by the clean end! Now, with special thanks to the Truman Museum and Harry himself, we finally have a full understanding of what ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’ really means.....
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Hoof Hearted 18 May 16 10.11am

I was debating with myself whether to put this in General Talk or Fun Talk.

Having mulled it over, I opted for here as I think that although this definition is amusing it does carry a serious message..........

*Ironically I've had to amend certain words so as not to offend the Hol Profanity filter!

What is meant by the modern term referred to as ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’

The definition is found in 4 telegrams at the Truman Library and Museum in Independence, Missouri.

The following are copies of four telegrams between President Harry Truman and Gen Douglas MacArthur on the day before the actual signing of the WWII Surrender Agreement in September 1945. The contents of those four telegrams below are exactly as received at the end of the war - not a word has been added or deleted! (*see above)

(1) Tokyo,Japan
0800-September 1,1945
To: President Harry S Truman
From: General D A MacArthur
Tomorrow we meet with those yellow-bellied b*stards and sign the Surrender Documents, any last minute instructions?

(2) Washington, D C
1300-September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur
From: H S Truman
Congratulations, job well done, but you must tone down your obvious dislike of the Japanese when discussing the terms of the surrender with the press, because some of your remarks are fundamentally not politically correct!

(3) Tokyo, Japan
1630-September 1, 1945
To: H S Truman
From: D A MacArthur and C H Nimitz
Wilco Sir, but both Chester and I are somewhat confused, exactly what does the term politically correct mean?

(4) Washington, D C
2120-September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz
From: H S Truman
Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of sh*t by the clean end!

Now, with special thanks to the Truman Museum and Harry himself, we finally have a full understanding of what ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’ really means.....

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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 May 16 10.15am
Very funny. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 18 May 16 10.15am

Very funny.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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heff75 london 18 May 16 10.21am
George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.................. [Link] Edited by heff75 (18 May 2016 10.23am)
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london 18 May 16 10.21am

George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.................. [Link]

Edited by heff75 (18 May 2016 10.23am)

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Hoof Hearted 18 May 16 10.59am
Originally posted by heff75 George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.................. [Link] Edited by heff75 (18 May 2016 10.23am) That is brilliant.... my favourite observation of PC speech he suggests.... Rape Victims = Unwilling Sperm Recipients
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Hoof Hearted 18 May 16 10.59am

Originally posted by heff75

George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.................. [Link]

Edited by heff75 (18 May 2016 10.23am)

That is brilliant.... my favourite observation of PC speech he suggests....

Rape Victims = Unwilling Sperm Recipients

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 May 16 11.05am
Political correctness is just a modern term for something that has existed for centuries. It is just an element in the art of diplomacy.
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Political correctness is just a modern term for something that has existed for centuries. It is just an element in the art of diplomacy.

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big_palace_fan 18 May 16 11.09am
This is such nonsense. Go and read a book
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This is such nonsense.

Go and read a book

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Hoof Hearted 18 May 16 11.13am
Originally posted by big_palace_fan This is such nonsense. Go and read a book Tetchy?
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Hoof Hearted 18 May 16 11.13am

Originally posted by big_palace_fan

This is such nonsense.

Go and read a book

Tetchy?

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johnfirewall 18 May 16 11.42am
Not sure if you're taking it seriously but: [Link] Not that we need historic figures to invalidate the idea which has slowly - to use the cliché - 'gone mad'.
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18 May 16 11.42am

Not sure if you're taking it seriously but:

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Not that we need historic figures to invalidate the idea which has slowly - to use the cliché - 'gone mad'.

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Hoof Hearted 18 May 16 11.49am
Originally posted by johnfirewall Not sure if you're taking it seriously but: [Link] Not that we need historic figures to invalidate the idea which has slowly - to use the cliché - 'gone mad'. I'm aware that in certain circles this story is regarded as an internet rumour that is invalid but in certain circles people believe the moon landings or the holocaust didn't happen either!
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Hoof Hearted 18 May 16 11.49am

Originally posted by johnfirewall

Not sure if you're taking it seriously but:

[Link]

Not that we need historic figures to invalidate the idea which has slowly - to use the cliché - 'gone mad'.

I'm aware that in certain circles this story is regarded as an internet rumour that is invalid but in certain circles people believe the moon landings or the holocaust didn't happen either!

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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 May 16 11.58am
Originally posted by heff75 George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.................. [Link] Edited by heff75 (18 May 2016 10.23am) He's kind of right, in some regards, if you define political correctness on its use as a means to attack the words people use, rather than what they are saying. Political correctness as a movement and social theory is more questioning why you would choose to use terms that other people are offended by, when you don't have to. Its really supposed to be about challenging the socially constructed discourses of prejudice inherent in social constructs, rather than individuals. Sure, you can call someone a P@ki, the question is would you be happy if they referred to you as a c**t. Because, chances are that's how people feel when you use that term to them, because their experience of being called P@ki are based in hate, threat, intimidation and abuse. Which is why the best politically correctness arguments tend to be when people call 'reverse racism / sexism etc' what they're actually engaging in is political correctness. Its about changing how we think and use language, not as a means of 'winning'. Its like when people call the BNP a sham party because they're racist, which really just reinforces their position. The politically correct astute, would look to undermine their basis on something their own members would understand (say economic policy). The more you question something 'you do, or agree with' the more you change. Sadly, for many people, the ideal has become 'what you say is wrong because you used this word', rather than bringing them to question why they believe something and ultimately, their own use of language will eventually follow. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 18 May 16 11.58am

Originally posted by heff75

George Carlin - Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners.................. [Link]

Edited by heff75 (18 May 2016 10.23am)

He's kind of right, in some regards, if you define political correctness on its use as a means to attack the words people use, rather than what they are saying.

Political correctness as a movement and social theory is more questioning why you would choose to use terms that other people are offended by, when you don't have to.

Its really supposed to be about challenging the socially constructed discourses of prejudice inherent in social constructs, rather than individuals.

Sure, you can call someone a P@ki, the question is would you be happy if they referred to you as a c**t. Because, chances are that's how people feel when you use that term to them, because their experience of being called P@ki are based in hate, threat, intimidation and abuse.

Which is why the best politically correctness arguments tend to be when people call 'reverse racism / sexism etc' what they're actually engaging in is political correctness.

Its about changing how we think and use language, not as a means of 'winning'. Its like when people call the BNP a sham party because they're racist, which really just reinforces their position. The politically correct astute, would look to undermine their basis on something their own members would understand (say economic policy). The more you question something 'you do, or agree with' the more you change.

Sadly, for many people, the ideal has become 'what you say is wrong because you used this word', rather than bringing them to question why they believe something and ultimately, their own use of language will eventually follow.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 May 16 12.43pm
Political correctness is designed to avoid offense but it very often used to attack others and to drive an agenda. It is manipulative in that respect.
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18 May 16 12.43pm

Political correctness is designed to avoid offense but it very often used to attack others and to drive an agenda. It is manipulative in that respect.

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big_palace_fan 18 May 16 1.07pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Tetchy? Nah its just a bollocks thread. You should get a hobby rather than complain about ultimately inconsequential issues. What is your background out of interest?
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big_palace_fan

18 May 16 1.07pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Tetchy?

Nah its just a bollocks thread.

You should get a hobby rather than complain about ultimately inconsequential issues.

What is your background out of interest?

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