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serial thriller The Promised Land 03 Jun 15 12.10pm
Saw a very interesting clip discussing this issue and thought that HOL, being the liberal, tolerant and intellectual hub that it is, would be the perfect place to post it and wait for the sensible, thought-provoking and respectful discussion that will inevitably follow.... [Link] If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Saw a very interesting clip discussing this issue and thought that HOL, being the liberal, tolerant and intellectual hub that it is, would be the perfect place to post it and wait for the sensible, thought-provoking and respectful discussion that will inevitably follow....

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Pawson Palace Croydon 03 Jun 15 12.16pm
Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise. Pride of South London Upper Holmesdale Block P
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Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise.

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JL85 London,SE9 03 Jun 15 12.17pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Jun 2015 12.16pm Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise. I suppose it is, if you're poor. Edited by JL85 (03 Jun 2015 12.19pm)
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Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Jun 2015 12.16pm

Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise.

I suppose it is, if you're poor.

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DanH SW2 03 Jun 15 12.18pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Jun 2015 12.16pm Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise. It is, outside of this forum
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Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Jun 2015 12.16pm

Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise.

It is, outside of this forum

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serial thriller The Promised Land 03 Jun 15 12.19pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Jun 2015 12.16pm Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise. Posting 6 minutes after I post up a 8 minute video. Watch it by any chance? Edited by serial thriller (03 Jun 2015 12.22pm) If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 03 Jun 15 12.19pm

Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Jun 2015 12.16pm

Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise.

Posting 6 minutes after I post up a 8 minute video. Watch it by any chance?

Edited by serial thriller (03 Jun 2015 12.22pm)

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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doi209 Fighting for the weak and innocent... 03 Jun 15 12.23pm
Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.10pm Saw a very interesting clip discussing this issue and thought that HOL, being the liberal, tolerant and intellectual hub that it is, would be the perfect place to post it and wait for the sensible, thought-provoking and respectful discussion that will inevitably follow.... [Link] I think the issue within this country is the immigrants who do not wish to join society. If I went to a foreign country, I would try to learn the language, integrate and dress as the locals. The main issue is generally integration. If you don't try, why should you be accepted. If you don't want to be here, go home. I am personally not racist as many years ago, I had girlfriends who were black. I am a middle class middle-aged white male. I live in a part of the country that has few blacks. I can't speak for London, Birmingham, Bradford etc. I can't speak for the rest of the country.
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Fighting for the weak and innocent... 03 Jun 15 12.23pm

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I think the issue within this country is the immigrants who do not wish to join society. If I went to a foreign country, I would try to learn the language, integrate and dress as the locals. The main issue is generally integration. If you don't try, why should you be accepted. If you don't want to be here, go home.
I am personally not racist as many years ago, I had girlfriends who were black. I am a middle class middle-aged white male. I live in a part of the country that has few blacks. I can't speak for London, Birmingham, Bradford etc.
I can't speak for the rest of the country.

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serial thriller The Promised Land 03 Jun 15 12.29pm
Quote doi209 at 03 Jun 2015 12.23pm Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.10pm Saw a very interesting clip discussing this issue and thought that HOL, being the liberal, tolerant and intellectual hub that it is, would be the perfect place to post it and wait for the sensible, thought-provoking and respectful discussion that will inevitably follow.... [Link] I think the issue within this country is the immigrants who do not wish to join society. If I went to a foreign country, I would try to learn the language, integrate and dress as the locals. The main issue is generally integration. If you don't try, why should you be accepted. If you don't want to be here, go home. I am personally not racist as many years ago, I had girlfriends who were black. I am a middle class middle-aged white male. I live in a part of the country that has few blacks. I can't speak for London, Birmingham, Bradford etc. I can't speak for the rest of the country. Sorry, that's just a cracking line. I think what Akala in that video is talking more about is society as a whole and our complicity in our government's acts in other countries, our general perception of migrants differentiating based on skin colour. If someone comes in to your home, it is incumbent on you to be hospitable, not on the guest, so why doesn't this extend to us being hospitable to immigrants coming in to this country? If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 03 Jun 15 12.29pm

Quote doi209 at 03 Jun 2015 12.23pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.10pm

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I think the issue within this country is the immigrants who do not wish to join society. If I went to a foreign country, I would try to learn the language, integrate and dress as the locals. The main issue is generally integration. If you don't try, why should you be accepted. If you don't want to be here, go home.
I am personally not racist as many years ago, I had girlfriends who were black. I am a middle class middle-aged white male. I live in a part of the country that has few blacks. I can't speak for London, Birmingham, Bradford etc.
I can't speak for the rest of the country.

Sorry, that's just a cracking line.

I think what Akala in that video is talking more about is society as a whole and our complicity in our government's acts in other countries, our general perception of migrants differentiating based on skin colour. If someone comes in to your home, it is incumbent on you to be hospitable, not on the guest, so why doesn't this extend to us being hospitable to immigrants coming in to this country?

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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derben 03 Jun 15 12.34pm
People prefer to live with people who share the same language, racial characteristics, religion and culture. Always have and always will.
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People prefer to live with people who share the same language, racial characteristics, religion and culture. Always have and always will.

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Plane Bromley 03 Jun 15 12.35pm
Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.29pm Quote doi209 at 03 Jun 2015 12.23pm Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.10pm Saw a very interesting clip discussing this issue and thought that HOL, being the liberal, tolerant and intellectual hub that it is, would be the perfect place to post it and wait for the sensible, thought-provoking and respectful discussion that will inevitably follow.... [Link] I think the issue within this country is the immigrants who do not wish to join society. If I went to a foreign country, I would try to learn the language, integrate and dress as the locals. The main issue is generally integration. If you don't try, why should you be accepted. If you don't want to be here, go home. I am personally not racist as many years ago, I had girlfriends who were black. I am a middle class middle-aged white male. I live in a part of the country that has few blacks. I can't speak for London, Birmingham, Bradford etc. I can't speak for the rest of the country. Sorry, that's just a cracking line. I think what Akala in that video is talking more about is society as a whole and our complicity in our government's acts in other countries, our general perception of migrants differentiating based on skin colour. If someone comes in to your home, it is incumbent on you to be hospitable, not on the guest, so why doesn't this extend to us being hospitable to immigrants coming in to this country? I thought the part I've highlighted in red was amusing as well, presumably all immigrants should wear a suit, as most middle class, middle aged men tend to do!! I watched the vid and Akala has some very salient points, the best was Aboriginal Australians were classed as flora as fauna until 1967, WTF! Yeah, we should follow their example
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Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.29pm

Quote doi209 at 03 Jun 2015 12.23pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.10pm

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I think the issue within this country is the immigrants who do not wish to join society. If I went to a foreign country, I would try to learn the language, integrate and dress as the locals. The main issue is generally integration. If you don't try, why should you be accepted. If you don't want to be here, go home.
I am personally not racist as many years ago, I had girlfriends who were black. I am a middle class middle-aged white male. I live in a part of the country that has few blacks. I can't speak for London, Birmingham, Bradford etc.
I can't speak for the rest of the country.

Sorry, that's just a cracking line.

I thought the part I've highlighted in red was amusing as well, presumably all immigrants should wear a suit, as most middle class, middle aged men tend to do!!

I watched the vid and Akala has some very salient points, the best was Aboriginal Australians were classed as flora as fauna until 1967, WTF! Yeah, we should follow their example

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Pawson Palace Croydon 03 Jun 15 12.42pm
Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.19pm Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Jun 2015 12.16pm Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise. Posting 6 minutes after I post up a 8 minute video. Watch it by any chance? Edited by serial thriller (03 Jun 2015 12.22pm) skipped to 1;38 flower. Pride of South London Upper Holmesdale Block P
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Croydon 03 Jun 15 12.42pm

Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 12.19pm

Quote Pawson Palace at 03 Jun 2015 12.16pm

Britain is one of the most tolerant countries in the world and I am sick to death of people saying it is otherwise.

Posting 6 minutes after I post up a 8 minute video. Watch it by any chance?

Edited by serial thriller (03 Jun 2015 12.22pm)

skipped to 1;38 flower.

Pride of South London
Upper Holmesdale Block P

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serial thriller The Promised Land 03 Jun 15 12.43pm
Quote derben at 03 Jun 2015 12.34pm People prefer to live with people who share the same language, racial characteristics, religion and culture. Always have and always will. Then how do you explain doi's black girlfriend? Edited by serial thriller (03 Jun 2015 12.44pm) If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 03 Jun 15 12.43pm

Quote derben at 03 Jun 2015 12.34pm

People prefer to live with people who share the same language, racial characteristics, religion and culture. Always have and always will.

Then how do you explain doi's black girlfriend?

Edited by serial thriller (03 Jun 2015 12.44pm)

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Johnny Eagles berlin 03 Jun 15 12.45pm
I mentioned it here. [Link] My 2p worth again: By the way, did anyone watch 'Frankie Boyle's Election Autopsy'? Like a lot of BBC comedy it was a bit hit and miss. Clearly the comedians were a bit leftist, anti-UKIP but I don't mind that too much. It's irreverent and anti-politics, although interesting how BBC 'satire' follows EXACTLY the same pattern regardless of channel or programme (Cameron is posh, Miliband useless, Clegg a traitor, Farage a racist) Anyway, did anyone see the monologue about supposedly 'racist to the core' Britain by the rapper guy at the end? It was undoubtedly eloquent and interesting and it was quite well-informed. But it was NOT comedy or satire. It was a bald political statement and went completely unchallenged for a good six or seven minutes. Whether you agree or disagree, it is desperately poor standards from a supposedly impartial broadcaster and I was pretty shocked the BBC put it out. ...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...
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berlin 03 Jun 15 12.45pm

I mentioned it here.

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My 2p worth again:

By the way, did anyone watch 'Frankie Boyle's Election Autopsy'?

Like a lot of BBC comedy it was a bit hit and miss. Clearly the comedians were a bit leftist, anti-UKIP but I don't mind that too much. It's irreverent and anti-politics, although interesting how BBC 'satire' follows EXACTLY the same pattern regardless of channel or programme (Cameron is posh, Miliband useless, Clegg a traitor, Farage a racist)

Anyway, did anyone see the monologue about supposedly 'racist to the core' Britain by the rapper guy at the end?

It was undoubtedly eloquent and interesting and it was quite well-informed. But it was NOT comedy or satire. It was a bald political statement and went completely unchallenged for a good six or seven minutes.

Whether you agree or disagree, it is desperately poor standards from a supposedly impartial broadcaster and I was pretty shocked the BBC put it out.

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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