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Unbelievable.

scary stuff indeed, but until we make middle east peace a priority and prove to people we are sorting out our mess which has caused thousands of deaths over there (mostly palestinians) then the hate will go on. how much hate must you feel to do that? my god.

unfortunately man has been killing each other over a piece of land, religious beliefs or for commericial gain since time began....and I honestly don't think there will ever be true peace in the world - esp. in the middle east.
The politicians and clerics can talk and reason all they like but that won't have any effect on these extremists.

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It's getting very difficult to dissociate islam from 'terrorism' now. No matter how much the majority of moslems protest about how they are 'peace loving', the major terrorist threat in this country and worldwide comes from the ranks of islam's adherents. This is a fact.

Moslems in this country also regard themselves as moslems first and British second, which is completely unacceptable. This country has generously accepted them and, on the whole, they have chosen to remain aloof from the rest of us both socially and culturally. This is also unacceptable. People like Abu Hamza (and there are many others of his kind) use the tolerance and hospitality of this country to preach violence and hatred against it and its ways, knowing that their views in their countries of origin would not be tolerated. At best, they're hypocrites and at worst, they are an evil in our midst.

Anywhere else, these people would be deported quicker than you could say 'parasite' but not here - it amuses me to hear people talk about the institutionalised racism that prevails in Britain, yet this country has a better track record of putting up with rubbish like these people than anywhere else I can imagine.

We need to take a far tougher line with the terrorist threat and anyone who preaches dissent openly from their mosque should be removed from Britain immediately. The same goes for those who harbour them.

The sooner everyone realises that these people are dedicated to the overthrow of our way of life by whatever means possible, the quicker and more effective the fight against terrorism will be. These scum have no 'rights' - they forfeited those when they started to preach their hatred while guests in this country.

You're talking a lot of sense there, Cucking, but do you not think you're being a tiny bit sweeping in your generalisations when it comes to our Islamic community? As far as I am aware, and in common with every other group in our community, the vast proportion of Muslims in this country are law-abiding and hard working. They also resent (fear?) the Muslim extremist minority. Are Palace fans all evil because a few chav teenagers cause trouble after the game?

Edited by Moose (09 Mar 2004 12:42pm)

Goodness is what you do. Not who you pray to.

Hardly a relevant comparison, Moose. Supporting Palace is not something which orders every single facet of your life (ok, I'm sure there are some no-lifers out there who live for nothing else). Islam is everything for these people. What nationality they happen to be doesn't come into it as far as they're concerned. I have long viewed islam as something culturally alien to this country and will continue to do so. While many of the so-called peaceful majority will deny any association with the actions of the extremists, they will have no loyalty to this country if push comes to shove. If we were to deport these extremists and keep a closer watch on what goes on in their mosques, these are the people who would be most up in arms and whining about victimisation.