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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 24 Mar 15 11.58am Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Another plane crash in the Alps on a flight between Barcelona and Dusseldorf, looks like no survivors.

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What is going on? Is it just me or have there been far more in the last couple of years than normal?

 


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Moose Flag In the sewer pipe... 24 Mar 15 12.01pm Send a Private Message to Moose Add Moose as a friend

You should have been around in the 70s, when commercial passenger air travel really took off. There was a big accident pretty much every month in those days. There may have been a small peak in recent months but air travel is thousands of times safer today than forty years ago.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 24 Mar 15 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

There's a flight data path webpage which shows all the planes in the air right now. The amount criss crossing Europe is unbelievable if you zoom in.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 24 Mar 15 12.06pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Quote Moose at 24 Mar 2015 12.01pm

You should have been around in the 70s, when commercial passenger air travel really took off. There was a big accident pretty much every month in those days. There may have been a small peak in recent months but air travel is thousands of times safer today than forty years ago.


Yep. Remember going to Tenerife in '78 and the stewards asking everyone to put the blinds down on take off and landing. I peeked.

Wreckage from the two jumbo jets that had collided not long before was on the grass still. Only 550 dead.

That helped calm my 13 year old nerves on my first flight.

 


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Moose Flag In the sewer pipe... 24 Mar 15 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Moose Add Moose as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 24 Mar 2015 12.06pm

Quote Moose at 24 Mar 2015 12.01pm

You should have been around in the 70s, when commercial passenger air travel really took off. There was a big accident pretty much every month in those days. There may have been a small peak in recent months but air travel is thousands of times safer today than forty years ago.


Yep. Remember going to Tenerife in '78 and the stewards asking everyone to put the blinds down on take off and landing. I peeked.

Wreckage from the two jumbo jets that had collided not long before was on the grass still. Only 550 dead.

That helped calm my 13 year old nerves on my first flight.


Still remains the worst air crash ever in terms of passenger deaths. All because some daft Dutch pilot was too impatient to wait for the all clear before taking off.

 


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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 24 Mar 15 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Quote Moose at 24 Mar 2015 12.01pm

You should have been around in the 70s, when commercial passenger air travel really took off. There was a big accident pretty much every month in those days. There may have been a small peak in recent months but air travel is thousands of times safer today than forty years ago.


I can imagine that being the case in the 70s before standards and technology were advanced.

It's undeniably statistically a very safe way to travel and, as Kermit said, when you realise how many planes are up there at any given moment you're massively odds against to ever be one of the unfortunate ones.

Having said that since I moved abroad and started flying back and forth from England several times a year, I've become quite a nervous flyer and can't imagine many more terrifying ways to go.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Mar 15 12.30pm

Quote Moose at 24 Mar 2015 12.01pm

You should have been around in the 70s, when commercial passenger air travel really took off. There was a big accident pretty much every month in those days. There may have been a small peak in recent months but air travel is thousands of times safer today than forty years ago.

Definitely seemed more common in my youth that you'd hear about a disaster (whether that's actually true is another matter). Plus you had hijackings on top.


 


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regal_eagle Flag somewhere 24 Mar 15 12.32pm Send a Private Message to regal_eagle Add regal_eagle as a friend

We just hear about it quicker now, and news like this gets saturated through the 24hr news channels, repeated every 15minutes.

 

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Moose Flag In the sewer pipe... 24 Mar 15 12.37pm Send a Private Message to Moose Add Moose as a friend

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Interesting statistics in this link.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Mar 15 12.38pm

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Quote Moose at 24 Mar 2015 12.01pm

You should have been around in the 70s, when commercial passenger air travel really took off. There was a big accident pretty much every month in those days. There may have been a small peak in recent months but air travel is thousands of times safer today than forty years ago.


I can imagine that being the case in the 70s before standards and technology were advanced.

It's undeniably statistically a very safe way to travel and, as Kermit said, when you realise how many planes are up there at any given moment you're massively odds against to ever be one of the unfortunate ones.

Having said that since I moved abroad and started flying back and forth from England several times a year, I've become quite a nervous flyer and can't imagine many more terrifying ways to go.

Life is a lottery of all manner of terrible, amusing and absurd ways to die, and if you don't win the accidental / deliberate death sweepstakes, the cost of participation if death by disease.

The advantage of a plane crash is it'll be quick, and you won't have to worry about living with terrible injuries (usually). The downside is that despite what they say, most people are still alive when they hit the ground (even when the plane has been blown up - explosions on planes are relatively small, as you don't really need to do too much damage to bring a plane down - physics tends to take care of the rest).

The game of life, everyone loses in the end. Its basically about trying to stay alive long enough for natural causes to win.


 


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Johnny Eagles Flag berlin 24 Mar 15 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Johnny Eagles Add Johnny Eagles as a friend

It's a terrible tragedy and I am in no way making light of that.

But it is strange how people have texted me, even though they know it is infinitesimally unlikely that I happened to be on the plane, just because it was flying to Germany and I'm (presumably) one of the only people they know who lives in Germany.

It's weird. It's like they almost WANT me to have crashed into some mountains so they can be "closer" to a major news event.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Mar 15 12.44pm


My suspicion would be that its the standards, and safety technology driven by standards that makes the difference, rather than the technology.

Back in the 70s society in general seemed to be somewhat more blasé about mortality, death and serious injury. We've seen massive improvements in terms of motoring accidents by focusing, not so much on new technology, as focusing on the driver.

You don't really hear about those horrific motorway pile ups of yester year anymore. Probably because people are more focused on things like 'safety, not drinking and paying attention' when in a metal coffin travelling at 80 mph, surrounded by other metal coffins.

Safety measures and technology take some of the credit, but in driving, as with Air Traffic, I suspect that a large part of the difference is in 'more responsible people'.

As a kid, my dad who was an AA Sponsor, seemed to know a frightening large number of commercial pilots.


 


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