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 PA  Bedfordshire 23 Mar 15 9.43pm |
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How easy is it for a petrol station to diddle their customers? I got some diesel today priced at 117.9 a litre. I stopped the nozzle on exactly 1 litre and the cost was 119. Rip off! You multiply than extra 1.1 pence by thousands of litres and it mounts up! Bet they're all at it.
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| Stuk Top half 23 Mar 15 10.26pm |
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Both quantity and price are probably subject to more decimal places than have to be displayed. It could conceivably be 117.949p per litre and 1.0049 litres. A larger sample size would more accurately reveal any potential rip off.
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| PA Bedfordshire 23 Mar 15 10.43pm |
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Quote Stuk at 23 Mar 2015 10.26pm
Both quantity and price are probably subject to more decimal places than have to be displayed. It could conceivably be 117.949p per litre and 1.0049 litres. A larger sample size would more accurately reveal any potential rip off.
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| Stuk Top half 23 Mar 15 11.07pm |
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Quote PA at 23 Mar 2015 10.43pm
Quote Stuk at 23 Mar 2015 10.26pm
Both quantity and price are probably subject to more decimal places than have to be displayed. It could conceivably be 117.949p per litre and 1.0049 litres. A larger sample size would more accurately reveal any potential rip off.
Ha ha. Try stopping a petrol pump on an even number of pounds though. That's a bloody impossibility nowadays.
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| Pawson Palace Croydon 24 Mar 15 10.09am |
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I never get why you cant key in that you want say £20 in juice and then let it pump until it reaches that amount.. Annoying as f*** having a penny pot for when I go over haha
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Mar 15 11.42am |
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There has always been an association between fuel and organized crime, the Albanian organized crime gangs have a long history in the US and the Provo's were heavily involved in organized crime around fuel in Ireland. It would be naïve to assume an area where there is so much scope for organized crime is not affected. Typically any low profit high duty large turn over business attracts organized crime. Albanian gangs have been involved in extortion (forcing people to buy from their supply), cutting (using additives to increase profit), smuggling (to avoid duty which is harder in the UK than elsewhere due to the limited border scopes), and of course for money laundering and moving stolen goods/counterfeit goods. Fuel profit is about turnover, as the profit on a litre of fuel is very low. Consequently such operators are generally more open to organized crime, where a boost of say a few pence per litre could double the profit. Its also telling that Petrol Stations also are higher retailers of tabbaco products, and now alcohol. Both of which are common organized crime business (Small margins, high turnover high duty) - and often stolen in bulk from storage sources. Petrol station owners tend to be fairly shifty types.
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| johnfirewall 24 Mar 15 12.22pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Mar 2015 11.42am
There has always been an association between fuel and organized crime, the Albanian organized crime gangs have a long history in the US and the Provo's were heavily involved in organized crime around fuel in Ireland. It would be naïve to assume an area where there is so much scope for organized crime is not affected. Typically any low profit high duty large turn over business attracts organized crime. Albanian gangs have been involved in extortion (forcing people to buy from their supply), cutting (using additives to increase profit), smuggling (to avoid duty which is harder in the UK than elsewhere due to the limited border scopes), and of course for money laundering and moving stolen goods/counterfeit goods. Fuel profit is about turnover, as the profit on a litre of fuel is very low. Consequently such operators are generally more open to organized crime, where a boost of say a few pence per litre could double the profit. Its also telling that Petrol Stations also are higher retailers of tabbaco products, and now alcohol. Both of which are common organized crime business (Small margins, high turnover high duty) - and often stolen in bulk from storage sources. Petrol station owners tend to be fairly shifty types. Seems a little outdated, but reassuring that nowadays they're generally owned by the big oil companies or supermarkets.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Mar 15 12.27pm |
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Quote johnfirewall at 24 Mar 2015 12.22pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Mar 2015 11.42am
There has always been an association between fuel and organized crime, the Albanian organized crime gangs have a long history in the US and the Provo's were heavily involved in organized crime around fuel in Ireland. It would be naïve to assume an area where there is so much scope for organized crime is not affected. Typically any low profit high duty large turn over business attracts organized crime. Albanian gangs have been involved in extortion (forcing people to buy from their supply), cutting (using additives to increase profit), smuggling (to avoid duty which is harder in the UK than elsewhere due to the limited border scopes), and of course for money laundering and moving stolen goods/counterfeit goods. Fuel profit is about turnover, as the profit on a litre of fuel is very low. Consequently such operators are generally more open to organized crime, where a boost of say a few pence per litre could double the profit. Its also telling that Petrol Stations also are higher retailers of tabbaco products, and now alcohol. Both of which are common organized crime business (Small margins, high turnover high duty) - and often stolen in bulk from storage sources. Petrol station owners tend to be fairly shifty types. Seems a little outdated, but reassuring that nowadays they're generally owned by the big oil companies or supermarkets. Franchised generally, rather than owned (in regards to the big oil companies).
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| Stuk Top half 24 Mar 15 1.50pm |
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Quote Pawson Palace at 24 Mar 2015 10.09am
I never get why you cant key in that you want say £20 in juice and then let it pump until it reaches that amount.. Annoying as f*** having a penny pot for when I go over haha
First time that happened to me I said i'll stick $50 in, forgetting it's cheaper than water over there, and the pump cut out at about $30 odd and I had to go in and get the balance refunded. I wish they'd stop deactivating all the locks on the triggers, which let you fill up without holding on to it.
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| Stuk Top half 24 Mar 15 1.51pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Mar 2015 12.27pm
Quote johnfirewall at 24 Mar 2015 12.22pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Mar 2015 11.42am
There has always been an association between fuel and organized crime, the Albanian organized crime gangs have a long history in the US and the Provo's were heavily involved in organized crime around fuel in Ireland. It would be naïve to assume an area where there is so much scope for organized crime is not affected. Typically any low profit high duty large turn over business attracts organized crime. Albanian gangs have been involved in extortion (forcing people to buy from their supply), cutting (using additives to increase profit), smuggling (to avoid duty which is harder in the UK than elsewhere due to the limited border scopes), and of course for money laundering and moving stolen goods/counterfeit goods. Fuel profit is about turnover, as the profit on a litre of fuel is very low. Consequently such operators are generally more open to organized crime, where a boost of say a few pence per litre could double the profit. Its also telling that Petrol Stations also are higher retailers of tabbaco products, and now alcohol. Both of which are common organized crime business (Small margins, high turnover high duty) - and often stolen in bulk from storage sources. Petrol station owners tend to be fairly shifty types. Seems a little outdated, but reassuring that nowadays they're generally owned by the big oil companies or supermarkets. Franchised generally, rather than owned (in regards to the big oil companies).
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| elgrande bedford 24 Mar 15 6.19pm |
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Quote Stuk at 24 Mar 2015 1.50pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 24 Mar 2015 10.09am
I never get why you cant key in that you want say £20 in juice and then let it pump until it reaches that amount.. Annoying as f*** having a penny pot for when I go over haha
First time that happened to me I said i'll stick in, forgetting it's cheaper than water over there, and the pump cut out at about odd and I had to go in and get the balance refunded. I wish they'd stop deactivating all the locks on the triggers, which let you fill up without holding on to it.
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