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matt_himself Matataland 22 Mar 15 10.07pm | |
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RIP. The founder of modern Singapore who built a nation and took a country out of poverty into prosperity.
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legaleagle 23 Mar 15 9.29am | |
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A man who was a towering local figure for 60 years.A man of many sides. A saviour to many, bringing amazing economic growth and creating a "stable" city state ....and a "dictator" to many others who established an ongoing repressive "1984-like shangri la" governed by a nepotist dynasty comprised of family members and close political associates... “Now if democracy will not work for the Russians, a white Christian people, can we assume that it will naturally work with Asians?” “With few exceptions, democracy has not brought good government to new developing countries…What Asians value may not necessarily be what Americans or Europeans value. Westerners value the freedoms and liberties of the individual. As an Asian of Chinese cultural backround, my values are for a government which is honest, effective and efficient.” “I’m not intellectually convinced that one-man-one-vote is the best. We practise it because that’s what the British bequeathed us.” “Anybody who decides to take me on needs to put on knuckle-dusters. If you think you can hurt me more than I can hurt you, try. There is no way you can govern a Chinese society.” “Please do not assume that you can change governments. Young people don’t understand this” “We have to lock up people, without trial, whether they are communists, whether they are language chauvinists, whether they are religious extremists. If you don’t do that, the country would be in ruins.” “It is not the practice, now will I allow subversives to get away by insisting that I’ve got to prove everything against them in a court of law or [produce] evidence that will stand up to the strict rules of evidence of a court of law.” “We must encourage those who earn less than 0 per month and cannot afford to nurture and educate many children never to have more than two… We will regret the time lost if we do not now take the first tentative steps towards correcting a trend which can leave our society with a large number of the physically, intellectually and culturally anaemic.” “There are some flaws in the assumptions made for democracy. It is assumed that all men and women are equal or should be equal. Hence, one-man-one-vote. But is equality realistic? If it is not, to insist on equality must lead to regression.” “The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more … the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow.” “If I have to shoot 200,000 students to save China from another 100 years of disorder, so be it.” - Lee Kuan Yew evoking the ghost of Deng Xiaoping whilst endorsing the Tiananmen Square massacre, Straits Times, Aug 17, 2004 “I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yes, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn’t be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn’t be here, we would not have made economic progress, if we had not intervene on very personal matters – who your neighbour is, how you live, the noise you make, how you spit, or what language you use. We decide what is right. Never mind what people think.” Edited by legaleagle (23 Mar 2015 9.32am)
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Hoof Hearted 23 Mar 15 10.33am | |
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He wasn't keen on people chewing gum!
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 Mar 15 2.04pm | |
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He was in power when I served out there and met him twice when he came to Dieppe Barracks. A very sociable chap and did the people in Singapore proud when he was in office. The job he started back in the 60's has carried on to this day and it is a beautiful clean island. Well worth a visit if ever you get the chance. I have been back four times in the past twenty years and it ceases to amaze me on how it changes on every visit.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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legaleagle 23 Mar 15 7.47pm | |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 23 Mar 2015 10.33am
He wasn't keen on people chewing gum!
Still illegal,I believe, without a doctor's prescription. Illegal to sell e-cigarettes there too.Fine of up to about £2,500. Hugging in public is (or was until fairly recently) also punishable by a fine! Edited by legaleagle (23 Mar 2015 9.06pm)
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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 24 Mar 15 8.40am | |
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Quote legaleagle at 23 Mar 2015 7.47pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 23 Mar 2015 10.33am
He wasn't keen on people chewing gum!
Still illegal,I believe, without a doctor's prescription. Illegal to sell e-cigarettes there too.Fine of up to about £2,500. Hugging in public is (or was until fairly recently) also punishable by a fine! Edited by legaleagle (23 Mar 2015 9.06pm)
It's not really enforced though. More of a deterrent to keep dannyh from turning up.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 24 Mar 15 4.03pm | |
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Quote Superfly at 24 Mar 2015 8.40am
Quote legaleagle at 23 Mar 2015 7.47pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 23 Mar 2015 10.33am
He wasn't keen on people chewing gum!
Still illegal,I believe, without a doctor's prescription. Illegal to sell e-cigarettes there too.Fine of up to about £2,500. Hugging in public is (or was until fairly recently) also punishable by a fine! Edited by legaleagle (23 Mar 2015 9.06pm)
It's not really enforced though. More of a deterrent to keep dannyh from turning up. Our love affair with Singapore goes way back. The island country’s fascinating brew of Chinese, Indian and Muslim-Malaysian culture makes for a charming travel destination. We love Haji Lane’s trendy shops, Orchard Road’s fashion emporiums, Chinatown’s antique stores, Little India’s art galleries, and the list goes on. One thing we’re not so enamoured with is Singapore’s weird and wacky laws. Here’s a few of the favourites: Gay or 'unnatural sex' Laws in Singapore:
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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