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 kayjaybee  orpington 20 Apr 14 9.41pm |
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have to say (my opinion) i am proud to be a palace supporter at the moment, have been supporting since late 50's early 60's and for sheer togetherness and hard work i don't think i've seen a better squad of players than now, sometimes class/skill is all very nice but results are what its all about at the end of the day and we've got where we are by sheer endeavour and playing to our strengths, which TP has obviously adapted to suit the staff that was put in front of him when he took the job, i seriously can say i've enjoyed this season more than any over the last 30 years, keep it up lads, onwards and upwards
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| 20 Spaces Isnt Enoug Bolton 20 Apr 14 10.01pm |
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Martyn, Thorn , Ninja, Thomas, Gray, Wright, Bright 3rd. in Top Division
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Kermit8  Hevon 20 Apr 14 10.07pm |
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Not sure. 30 years ago we had Bason, Price, Ketteridge, Aylott, Langley and the rest. They were class.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 20 Apr 14 10.10pm |
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Quote 20 Spaces Isnt Enoug at 20 Apr 2014 10.01pm
Martyn, Thorn , Ninja, Thomas, Gray, Wright, Bright 3rd. in Top Division ^^^^^THIS You missed a few though. Edit. You missed a lot. Salako, Shaw, Coleman, Pardew, to name a few. Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (20 Apr 2014 10.19pm)
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| Leicestershireeagle South Leicestershire 20 Apr 14 10.35pm |
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I wouldn't say it's the best squad by a long way. What I would say is though, it's the most settled and focused the club has been for at least twenty years. Since the likes of Wright and Bright left, and Goldberg bought the club, we've just kind of floated on the ambitions of chairmen and ridden a rollercoaster of hopes, dreams, failures and near-misses. For the past 4 years, we've had a set of owners that are ambitious, yet shrewd, practical and unrelenting in their goal in maintaining this club's stability and financial longevity. However we got here, we are here, and for the first time in my life time at least, we've had a manager come in, grab the entire club by the scruff of the neck and told it to stop ******* about. We are all pulling in the same direction, we are all on the same bus and we are united in our ambition and passion for the club. The players have pretty much bought into TP's ideals instantly, and with that have grown from strength to strength. First was the defensive organization, and then came the discipline needed to counter effectively, which has resulted in the team being more attacking when we were all wishing for it to be. The club has had the brains for a few years now, but since TP came along it walks the walk too. The success of the season, and the results we've gained, and subsequently the effort and displays of the players are all intrinsically linked with the identify of the club and the foundations everything is built on. There are members older and wiser than myself, who can recall the legends of the past, but in my opinion we are in probably the most exciting and optimistic position we have ever been. Everything, from the board, to the manager, to the players, to the fans, are united and looking in the same direction. We must heed patience and remain disciplined and mindful of our past, but the air of optimism is so strong with us all that any lacking of technical ability on the pitch is almost irrelevant. We've had better individual, and better teams, but we have never, in my eyes, had a healthy or more progressive club than we do now. We walking into unknown territory, and the possibilities are immense. I'm not talking about success on the field necessary, but the foundations of this club can be reinforced so much that the effects could be felt for the next 100 years. If managed correctly of course. Damn it's exciting, and we are all here together to see where this rabbit hole goes.
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| kayjaybee orpington 20 Apr 14 10.58pm |
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Quote Leicestershireeagle at 20 Apr 2014 10.35pm
I wouldn't say it's the best squad by a long way. What I would say is though, it's the most settled and focused the club has been for at least twenty years. Since the likes of Wright and Bright left, and Goldberg bought the club, we've just kind of floated on the ambitions of chairmen and ridden a rollercoaster of hopes, dreams, failures and near-misses. For the past 4 years, we've had a set of owners that are ambitious, yet shrewd, practical and unrelenting in their goal in maintaining this club's stability and financial longevity. However we got here, we are here, and for the first time in my life time at least, we've had a manager come in, grab the entire club by the scruff of the neck and told it to stop ******* about. We are all pulling in the same direction, we are all on the same bus and we are united in our ambition and passion for the club. The players have pretty much bought into TP's ideals instantly, and with that have grown from strength to strength. First was the defensive organization, and then came the discipline needed to counter effectively, which has resulted in the team being more attacking when we were all wishing for it to be. The club has had the brains for a few years now, but since TP came along it walks the walk too. The success of the season, and the results we've gained, and subsequently the effort and displays of the players are all intrinsically linked with the identify of the club and the foundations everything is built on. There are members older and wiser than myself, who can recall the legends of the past, but in my opinion we are in probably the most exciting and optimistic position we have ever been. Everything, from the board, to the manager, to the players, to the fans, are united and looking in the same direction. We must heed patience and remain disciplined and mindful of our past, but the air of optimism is so strong with us all that any lacking of technical ability on the pitch is almost irrelevant. We've had better individual, and better teams, but we have never, in my eyes, had a healthy or more progressive club than we do now. We walking into unknown territory, and the possibilities are immense. I'm not talking about success on the field necessary, but the foundations of this club can be reinforced so much that the effects could be felt for the next 100 years. If managed correctly of course. Damn it's exciting, and we are all here together to see where this rabbit hole goes. as the original poster you have put it in a much better way than i originally did, many thanks for expanding on what i wanted to say, yes we've had some exceptional individual players over the years but as a unit from top to bottom, as i was trying to put it ( more precise from leic/eagle) isn't this the most enjoyable- highs and lows - season we've had for a good few years
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 20 Apr 14 11.01pm |
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Quote Leicestershireeagle at 20 Apr 2014 10.35pm
I wouldn't say it's the best squad by a long way. What I would say is though, it's the most settled and focused the club has been for at least twenty years. Since the likes of Wright and Bright left, and Goldberg bought the club, we've just kind of floated on the ambitions of chairmen and ridden a rollercoaster of hopes, dreams, failures and near-misses. For the past 4 years, we've had a set of owners that are ambitious, yet shrewd, practical and unrelenting in their goal in maintaining this club's stability and financial longevity. However we got here, we are here, and for the first time in my life time at least, we've had a manager come in, grab the entire club by the scruff of the neck and told it to stop ******* about. We are all pulling in the same direction, we are all on the same bus and we are united in our ambition and passion for the club. The players have pretty much bought into TP's ideals instantly, and with that have grown from strength to strength. First was the defensive organization, and then came the discipline needed to counter effectively, which has resulted in the team being more attacking when we were all wishing for it to be. The club has had the brains for a few years now, but since TP came along it walks the walk too. The success of the season, and the results we've gained, and subsequently the effort and displays of the players are all intrinsically linked with the identify of the club and the foundations everything is built on. There are members older and wiser than myself, who can recall the legends of the past, but in my opinion we are in probably the most exciting and optimistic position we have ever been. Everything, from the board, to the manager, to the players, to the fans, are united and looking in the same direction. We must heed patience and remain disciplined and mindful of our past, but the air of optimism is so strong with us all that any lacking of technical ability on the pitch is almost irrelevant. We've had better individual, and better teams, but we have never, in my eyes, had a healthy or more progressive club than we do now. We walking into unknown territory, and the possibilities are immense. I'm not talking about success on the field necessary, but the foundations of this club can be reinforced so much that the effects could be felt for the next 100 years. If managed correctly of course. Damn it's exciting, and we are all here together to see where this rabbit hole goes.
Correct We are Palace. Not united. That's just common. (Ask the Dr) That is due to the increased money.
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| kayjaybee orpington 20 Apr 14 11.05pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 20 Apr 2014 10.07pm
Not sure. 30 years ago we had Bason, Price, Ketteridge, Aylott, Langley and the rest. They were class.
Edited by kayjaybee (20 Apr 2014 11.06pm) Edited by kayjaybee (20 Apr 2014 11.06pm)
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| doublesuited77 London (Camden) 20 Apr 14 11.06pm |
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its always hard to compare between eras because of how the game has involved. If this year's squad were to play the 1990 or 1991 team, this year's squad would win a majority of game, simply because of the level of athleticism and physically. I am not sure anyone on the early 90s team could match the speed or bolassie or mariappa or the physical presence of Dann and Delaney in the back. That said, the early 90s team was much better within the league it played. When we finished 3rd, we arguably underachieved. We had as much talent as any squad in england. so from that perspective, that is the team that we will be chasing. I dont think we can call ourselves the best palace team in a generation until we make it to europe or win a cup. I will stay however, that our performance over the past 4 weeks is as good as any palace team i can remember supporting. I was away at university in the late 90s but dont think i missed anything special then.
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| Leicestershireeagle South Leicestershire 20 Apr 14 11.09pm |
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Quote Tim Gypsy Hill '64 at 20 Apr 2014 11.01pm
Quote Leicestershireeagle at 20 Apr 2014 10.35pm
I wouldn't say it's the best squad by a long way. What I would say is though, it's the most settled and focused the club has been for at least twenty years. Since the likes of Wright and Bright left, and Goldberg bought the club, we've just kind of floated on the ambitions of chairmen and ridden a rollercoaster of hopes, dreams, failures and near-misses. For the past 4 years, we've had a set of owners that are ambitious, yet shrewd, practical and unrelenting in their goal in maintaining this club's stability and financial longevity. However we got here, we are here, and for the first time in my life time at least, we've had a manager come in, grab the entire club by the scruff of the neck and told it to stop ******* about. We are all pulling in the same direction, we are all on the same bus and we are united in our ambition and passion for the club. The players have pretty much bought into TP's ideals instantly, and with that have grown from strength to strength. First was the defensive organization, and then came the discipline needed to counter effectively, which has resulted in the team being more attacking when we were all wishing for it to be. The club has had the brains for a few years now, but since TP came along it walks the walk too. The success of the season, and the results we've gained, and subsequently the effort and displays of the players are all intrinsically linked with the identify of the club and the foundations everything is built on. There are members older and wiser than myself, who can recall the legends of the past, but in my opinion we are in probably the most exciting and optimistic position we have ever been. Everything, from the board, to the manager, to the players, to the fans, are united and looking in the same direction. We must heed patience and remain disciplined and mindful of our past, but the air of optimism is so strong with us all that any lacking of technical ability on the pitch is almost irrelevant. We've had better individual, and better teams, but we have never, in my eyes, had a healthy or more progressive club than we do now. We walking into unknown territory, and the possibilities are immense. I'm not talking about success on the field necessary, but the foundations of this club can be reinforced so much that the effects could be felt for the next 100 years. If managed correctly of course. Damn it's exciting, and we are all here together to see where this rabbit hole goes.
Correct We are Palace. Not united. That's just common. (Ask the Dr) That is due to the increased money.
Don't be awkward! And then at just let's people realize their dreams. Generally, it's those with a grounding and respect for where they came from that can handle a change in fortune. IE CPFC2010 aren't the type to get overly excited about the injection of cash and will remain grounded in the fundamental principles of the last few years. Slowly slowly, catchy monkey and all that.
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| EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 20 Apr 14 11.13pm |
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A combination of the Coppell and Pulis sides we would be champions
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| Qwijibo Bournemouth 20 Apr 14 11.13pm |
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Quote kayjaybee at 20 Apr 2014 9.41pm
have to say (my opinion) i am proud to be a palace supporter at the moment, have been supporting since late 50's early 60's and for sheer togetherness and hard work i don't think i've seen a better squad of players than now, sometimes class/skill is all very nice but results are what its all about at the end of the day and we've got where we are by sheer endeavour and playing to our strengths, which TP has obviously adapted to suit the staff that was put in front of him when he took the job, i seriously can say i've enjoyed this season more than any over the last 30 years, keep it up lads, onwards and upwards
I've not had the benefit of supporting Palace during our glory years of the early 90s, but I thoroughly acknowledge the point that we're a close unit, greatest than the sim of our parts purely down to a level of professionalism Man Utd, Chelsea and England could take lessons from. I literally had this conversation with a mate tonight. We have been blessed with a raw passion in recent years, a passion I believe to be born from having our backs to the wall for so long. We are the ultimate underdog. I genuinely believe that the reason out fans are regarded so high is because of the adversity we have endured in recent years. We take nothing for granted and I hope we will always stay that way. This attitude transcends itself onto the pitch and is reflected in the outlook of our manger and players. Both Holloway and Pulis have referenced our support and it's clearly an inspiration. It's in our DNA that we fight our corner, and over achieve despite the obstacles before us, because if we don't, we are faced with a grim consequences - whether mere relegation, or all-out extinction. Baring this in mind, and referring to the original point of the thread, I'd say we've been blessed in recent years with some true heroics from men who gave a s***. We're in the midst of a glorious era, but what price to this era are the likes of Shaun Derry, Clint Hill, Paddy McCarthy, Alan Lee, Matt Lawrence...? As talented? No f***ing way, but arguably a pretty damn defiant bunch who fought for it all, and we owe a lot. If the likes of Sunderland had players with bottle like these, they wouldn't just take points of the glamour clubs like Chelsea and Man City, they'd have won the 6-pointers at the bottom of the table too. But they haven't, and are essentially fair weather mercenaries who emphasise how lucky we have to have had the warriors we've had over the past few years. Tony Pulis (deservedly) takes a lot of credit right now. But there are many, many individuals who have contributed to our current position and I think the adventure started the moment Simon Jordan fell into the abyss of administration.
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