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 PsychoPaul  21 Mar 14 11.47pm |
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 Annie Oakley South Croydon 22 Mar 14 8.40am |
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I went to Donald Bell's grave in France. Its at the Gordon Dump cemetery, on the Somme. I left my old Palace pin on his grave. It was a poignant day for me.
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| Hoof Hearted 02 Apr 14 10.48am | |
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That made me feel sad but proud reading that account. RIP Donald Bell VC
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adrian b  Landrindod, Wales 02 Apr 14 2.38pm |
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What position did he play and what years?
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Seth  On a pale blue dot 02 Apr 14 4.21pm |
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How come he's not in the HOL database of "...every Crystal Palace player in history"?
"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" |
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| Hoof Hearted 02 Apr 14 4.45pm | |
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Quote Seth at 02 Apr 2014 4.21pm
How come he's not in the HOL database of "...every Crystal Palace player in history"?
Not sure if that is the reason Seth?
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| Seth On a pale blue dot 02 Apr 14 4.58pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 02 Apr 2014 4.45pm
Quote Seth at 02 Apr 2014 4.21pm
How come he's not in the HOL database of "...every Crystal Palace player in history"?
Not sure if that is the reason Seth?
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| adrian b Landrindod, Wales 04 Apr 14 2.09pm |
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Maybe He played in one of those 'invited' war time teams. Anyway, proud he graced our team, probably turning out at the old Crystal Palace FA cup ground.
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| SwalecliffeEagle Swalecliffe 04 Apr 14 10.58pm |
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It's something of a coincidence for me that I'm currently writing an essay on the significance of sport for the Great War effort. The characteristics that sport instilled in men - athleticism, pluck, team work and all that jazz - were valued greatly and seen to be essential for good leadership. You would have been hard pushed to find a soldier, particularly in the officer class, who wasn't a complete sports nut. It amazes me how only one player, given the large number of professional and amateur footballers who volunteered or were conscripted for the front line, earned the VC. A great story made even sweeter by the fact he was a Palace player to boot!
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| PalacePhotoMan Wallington 04 Apr 14 11.10pm |
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Quote SwalecliffeEagle at 04 Apr 2014 10.58pm
It's something of a coincidence for me that I'm currently writing an essay on the significance of sport for the Great War effort. The characteristics that sport instilled in men - athleticism, pluck, team work and all that jazz - were valued greatly and seen to be essential for good leadership. You would have been hard pushed to find a soldier, particularly in the officer class, who wasn't a complete sports nut. It amazes me how only one player, given the large number of professional and amateur footballers who volunteered or were conscripted for the front line, earned the VC. A great story made even sweeter by the fact he was a Palace player to boot! I hope you've heard about the East Surrey Regiment, who, on the first day of the Battle of the Somme (7am, 1st July 1916) were given a few footballs by their captain (21-yr old Capt Neville) and invited to dribble them towards the German front line. One or two of the balls used survive and are in various military museums. Sadly none of the regiment, nor their captain, survived that advance. My dad lost an uncle in that regiment on that day, and I've often wondered if he was one dribbling a football.
Zaha, Williams, Murray, Ambrose, Scannell. A 5-man forward line who scored 3 goals in 10 minutes on 27th September 2011 at ....................... |
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| SwalecliffeEagle Swalecliffe 04 Apr 14 11.56pm |
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Quote PalacePhotoMan at 04 Apr 2014 11.10pm
Quote SwalecliffeEagle at 04 Apr 2014 10.58pm
It's something of a coincidence for me that I'm currently writing an essay on the significance of sport for the Great War effort. The characteristics that sport instilled in men - athleticism, pluck, team work and all that jazz - were valued greatly and seen to be essential for good leadership. You would have been hard pushed to find a soldier, particularly in the officer class, who wasn't a complete sports nut. It amazes me how only one player, given the large number of professional and amateur footballers who volunteered or were conscripted for the front line, earned the VC. A great story made even sweeter by the fact he was a Palace player to boot! I hope you've heard about the East Surrey Regiment, who, on the first day of the Battle of the Somme (7am, 1st July 1916) were given a few footballs by their captain (21-yr old Capt Neville) and invited to dribble them towards the German front line. One or two of the balls used survive and are in various military museums. Sadly none of the regiment, nor their captain, survived that advance. My dad lost an uncle in that regiment on that day, and I've often wondered if he was one dribbling a football. I certainly have mate and I'll be including that in my analysis. 19,240 officers were killed during the offensive which Captain Nevill 'kicked off'. The incident is in many ways central to what I'm writing about as it's come to be seen as illustrative of the English spirit I referred to in my last post and proof that many saw war as just another game. Hence 'Play Up! Play Up! And play the game!'.
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| PalacePhotoMan Wallington 05 Apr 14 1.07am |
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I would love to read your analysis once it's done. What shouldn't be forgotten is that Captain Nevill was 21 years old and charged with leading hundreds of proud and brave men, many his elders, to almost certain death. How many of similar age today would relish being in that position?
Zaha, Williams, Murray, Ambrose, Scannell. A 5-man forward line who scored 3 goals in 10 minutes on 27th September 2011 at ....................... |
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