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Jeff Trice Flag 01 Nov 11 2.53pm Send a Private Message to Jeff Trice Add Jeff Trice as a friend

I run a website devoted to the history of Margate FC - [Link] - and am wondering if anybody might be able to help me out with info on a couple of players who were on Palace's books.

1) Alec Dawkins - real long shot as he was apparently just on trial with Palace early in the 1951/52 season. Any info on him would be great and the Holy Grail would be a photo.

His profile on my site is at...

[Link]

2) Les Wiltshire

Know a bit more about him and he was with Palace for a while...

[Link]

...the photo I have is a bit rubbish so if anybody could help me out with a better one I'd really appreciate it. Maybe he'd have been in a youth / reserve team picture at some stage ? Any extra info on him like his date of birth would be great too.

In case anybody's interested my site includes pages on quite a few pretty well-known Palace players like...

Jimmy Belcher, Mel Blyth, Les Devonshire, Les Fell (who I got to know quite well), Mike Flanagan, Albert Robson, Johnny Roche and Bill Roffey.

...and also pages on fringe / reserve players like Steve Dixson, Bill Fuller, Mickey Griffiths, Ron Harland, Vic Pain, Bryan Parry, Bryan Snowdon and Brian Stevens.

Hopefully something of interest there even if nobody can help me out.

 

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Jeff Trice Flag 01 Nov 11 2.56pm Send a Private Message to Jeff Trice Add Jeff Trice as a friend

Should have added that if anybody can help out it might be best to e-mail using the 'E-mail' option from the menu on my site. It's my name @ hotmail.com.

 

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lyeemoon Flag Girne 02 Nov 11 9.49pm Send a Private Message to lyeemoon Add lyeemoon as a friend

Can't help I'm afraid although Les Wiltshire rings a bell.

I'll email via your site which is interesting. Belcher was in my era, great picture of him, you'd never believe he was a Stepney boy! Tom Barnett also I remember well, especially playing alongside Johnny Byrne who used to give him dogs abuse.

 


lo Selhurst silva felix, lo Selhurst cara nutrix, viget, vigeat, vigebit! Best team:- Jackson; Gilbert, Evans, Cannon, Sansom; Hughes, Kember, McNichol; Byrne, Holton, Wright.

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Hoof Hearted 03 Nov 11 10.34am

I can confirm that Mike Flanagan was a lazy fat bast*ard that should have stayed at Charlton.

 

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lyeemoon Flag Girne 03 Nov 11 5.53pm Send a Private Message to lyeemoon Add lyeemoon as a friend

I should have also mentioned Johnny Roche. He suffered from the fact that we did a virtual exchange with Millwall who got Barry Pierce and he had to replace Dave Sexton who had an injury which forced his retirement.

Sexton was a class act whereas Roche was a more of a work horse and Pierce, a superb header of the ball, promptly scored against us in a 1-0 defeat at The Den. Roche's scoring record was not that bad though 13 goals in 40 games unlike the aforementioned fat boy Flanagan who scored the same number in 64 games.

 


lo Selhurst silva felix, lo Selhurst cara nutrix, viget, vigeat, vigebit! Best team:- Jackson; Gilbert, Evans, Cannon, Sansom; Hughes, Kember, McNichol; Byrne, Holton, Wright.

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lyeemoon Flag Girne 03 Nov 11 8.11pm Send a Private Message to lyeemoon Add lyeemoon as a friend

Sadly Roche died in 1988 aged only 56. He and his son both played for Gravesend.

 


lo Selhurst silva felix, lo Selhurst cara nutrix, viget, vigeat, vigebit! Best team:- Jackson; Gilbert, Evans, Cannon, Sansom; Hughes, Kember, McNichol; Byrne, Holton, Wright.

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Jeff Trice Flag 04 Nov 11 10.42am Send a Private Message to Jeff Trice Add Jeff Trice as a friend

Glad to have stirred up a few memories.

When Mike Flanagan signed for Margate you'd have thought we'd signed Pele, Cruyff and Maradona all rolled into one judging by the local press coverage.

He scored a cracker of a free-kick on his Margate debut and that was pretty much it although he played another dozen games.

He was signed by Colin Powell just before his spell as Margate's manager came to an end.

Never saw Johnny Roche play but from what I've read I always imagined him to be quite a skilful player, maybe that was more apparent in his non-league days.

 

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navigator Flag 06 Mar 17 10.52pm Send a Private Message to navigator Add navigator as a friend

I sent a message to Jeff Trice yesterday with reference to his request for details about Alec Dawkins. I mistakingly thought the post was from Nov16, but now realise it was really Nov11 and see that his website and & email produce no results. Am I to conclude the obvious and assume that he is no longer with us?

 

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navigator Flag 07 Mar 17 8.33am Send a Private Message to navigator Add navigator as a friend

I have now found this link [Link] which answers my query about Jeff and I will liaise with the new owner of his old site to pass on my information about Alec Dawkins.

 

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uncleian Flag Old Coulsdon 12 Mar 17 9.53pm Send a Private Message to uncleian Add uncleian as a friend

I have two Reserve programmes for CPFC for 1951-52 season that contain Alec Dawkins in the line up.
They are both home games in September 1951 and I have a note that he made 6 Reserve appearances that season.
Ian King CPFC Historian

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Mar 17 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

willo !!!!

 


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delday Flag ocean city md usa 02 Sep 17 4.40pm Send a Private Message to delday Add delday as a friend

I am a good friend of Ron Harland's brother. Ron has had hard times after playing in Australia. I believe he lives in Milton Keynes. I could ask his brother if you want more info or perhaps have contact with him

 

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