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longtime eagle Hendersonville,Tennessee 31 Oct 11 1.09pm | |
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It was in the 1950's that Arthur Rowe came to The Palace after managing Spurs. In fact Arthur was manager at The Palace on two occasions and we played some good football under his direction. Of course the game has changed considerably since Arthur's day but his theory of push and run was a very attractive style that I shall never forget. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has some thoughts or comments on Arthur's tenure at The Palace.
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lyeemoon Girne 03 Nov 11 6.11pm | |
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Superb is the only word. It was just a shame that he suffered from bad health. The football we played in those days was wonderful and I'm not sure I agree with your assertion that the game has changed that much from a 'push and run' perspective. The best teams play it now. It was much to his credit that he played it successfully in the 4th Division when he could have resorted to ale house football with bad pitches, cloggers and lenient refs. It was him who brought on the mercurial Johnny Byrne who always had a tendency to rummage around in his shorts rearranging his goolies. Byrne, lived closer to the ground than anyone in Wrights Road, but typically was always late for training, which took place at Selhurst then, and I can vividly remember him skipping onto the pitch after everyone including Arthur Rowe, and wishing a cheeky and cheery, "Morning Mr Rowe!" whilst doing his usual rummaging exercise. Great stuff.
lo Selhurst silva felix, lo Selhurst cara nutrix, viget, vigeat, vigebit! Best team:- Jackson; Gilbert, Evans, Cannon, Sansom; Hughes, Kember, McNichol; Byrne, Holton, Wright. |
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morganistic 03 Nov 11 6.35pm | |
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Didn't he play Captain Mainwaring in the Chinese version of Dads Army?
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lyeemoon Girne 03 Nov 11 7.10pm | |
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Didn't he play Captain Mainwaring in the Chinese version of Dads Army? Stupid boy Pike!
lo Selhurst silva felix, lo Selhurst cara nutrix, viget, vigeat, vigebit! Best team:- Jackson; Gilbert, Evans, Cannon, Sansom; Hughes, Kember, McNichol; Byrne, Holton, Wright. |
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morganistic 03 Nov 11 7.26pm | |
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Quote lyeemoon at 03 Nov 2011 7.10pm
Quote morganistic at 03 Nov 2011 6.35pm
Didn't he play Captain Mainwaring in the Chinese version of Dads Army? Stupid boy Pike!
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eagle in cornwall Made In Thornton Heath. 03 Nov 11 7.46pm | |
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He was lovely fella and use to let us kids onto the pitch during training sessions at Selhurst where we could kick around with the likes of Johnny Byne,Johnny McNichol,Peter Berry,Tery Long,David Payne,Alan Stephenson,George Petchey....the list goes on. He was really pleasant and the push and run style of play was something special and I'd like to believe it went someway to change the type of football that emerged so popular years on. It led me to go onto player in the relatively new 4-2-4 system,with a fellow playing partner who joined up with Johnny in South Africa,years later,and then on to manage Malmo and at present the Indian National side. Obviously our First/Premiership seasons were exceptional,the football the Palace played under his tutor-ledge was a pleasure to watch. Edited by eagle in cornwall (03 Nov 2011 7.51pm)
........................Then along came Johnny Byrne! and the rest, as they say, is history..................... |
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lyeemoon Girne 03 Nov 11 8.03pm | |
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Quote eagle in cornwall at 03 Nov 2011 7.46pm
He was lovely fella and use to let us kids onto the pitch during training sessions at Selhurst where we could kick around with the likes of Johnny Byne,Johnny McNichol,Peter Berry,Tery Long,David Payne,Ronnie Allen,Alan Stephenson,George Petchey....the list goes on. He was really pleasant and the push and run style of play was something special and I'd like to believe it went someway to change the type of football that emerged so popular years on. It led me to go onto player in the relatively new 4-2-4 system,with a fellow playing partner who joined up with Johnny in South Africa,years later,and then on to manage Malmo and at present the Indian National side. Obviously our First/Premiership seasons were exceptional,the football the Palace played under his tutor-ledge was a pleasure to watch. Spot on EIC. I used to go to those training sessions and was there when the TV cameras turned up after Byrne's selection for the England squad. Bizarrely they filmed him in goal but also included us kids collecting autographs. I was sent to bed and never saw if it featured or not. You're right Rowe was a real gentleman, softly spoken and considerate somewhat in the Bobby Robson mould. Few of the players took much interest in us in those days. The exception was Terry Long, another gent, who always used to engage and encourage us. I always remember one boy, this was later on, asking Cliff Holton if he'd rather be at Palace or Arsenal. Holton said "is that a serious question?" I didn't understand what he meant at the time!
lo Selhurst silva felix, lo Selhurst cara nutrix, viget, vigeat, vigebit! Best team:- Jackson; Gilbert, Evans, Cannon, Sansom; Hughes, Kember, McNichol; Byrne, Holton, Wright. |
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eagle in cornwall Made In Thornton Heath. 03 Nov 11 8.41pm | |
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Quote lyeemoon at 03 Nov 2011 8.03pm
Quote eagle in cornwall at 03 Nov 2011 7.46pm
He was lovely fella and use to let us kids onto the pitch during training sessions at Selhurst where we could kick around with the likes of Johnny Byne,Johnny McNichol,Peter Berry,Tery Long,David Payne,Ronnie Allen,Alan Stephenson,George Petchey....the list goes on. He was really pleasant and the push and run style of play was something special and I'd like to believe it went someway to change the type of football that emerged so popular years on. It led me to go onto player in the relatively new 4-2-4 system,with a fellow playing partner who joined up with Johnny in South Africa,years later,and then on to manage Malmo and at present the Indian National side. Obviously our First/Premiership seasons were exceptional,the football the Palace played under his tutor-ledge was a pleasure to watch. Spot on EIC. I used to go to those training sessions and was there when the TV cameras turned up after Byrne's selection for the England squad. Bizarrely they filmed him in goal but also included us kids collecting autographs. I was sent to bed and never saw if it featured or not. You're right Rowe was a real gentleman, softly spoken and considerate somewhat in the Bobby Robson mould. Few of the players took much interest in us in those days. The exception was Terry Long, another gent, who always used to engage and encourage us. I always remember one boy, this was later on, asking Cliff Holton if he'd rather be at Palace or Arsenal. Holton said "is that a serious question?" I didn't understand what he meant at the time!
Arthur Proudler was a case,he wasn't the greatest player but came across as very stern although funny at times. I recall one morning when the pitch was covered in snow they trained on the car park,big lumps of bricks and other rubble strewn all over it...how dangerous was that?! But back on topic....Having met pretty much all of the Palace Managers at some point,bar a few,Arthur Rowe earned the greatest respect,you wouldn't see him barking out orders or tearing strips off players,he was always dignified.
........................Then along came Johnny Byrne! and the rest, as they say, is history..................... |
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