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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Feb 23 4.05pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

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Sorry - 23.68% contribution from the employer unless I am reading it incorrectly?
I am not saying that all teachers are left wing - but their strikes are politically motivated by the Unions - so left is what left is!
In any event - I believe in fair pay - I employ people and they earn above average for the work that they do but I am working in the private sector.
If you decide to become a teacher then you know what the pay is and you know what the benefits are.
I feel no pity for them - sorry - nor the majority of public sector workers right now.

Well you do at the time you start, yes.

What do you do if in the 10 years since you started that deal is 30% worse than it was?

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Feb 23 4.56pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

If you decide to become a teacher then you know what the pay is and you know what the benefits are.

Similar with nurses and I notice how many on the picket lines seem to be in their early twenties so have known when they started their careers that the pay was low

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Feb 23 6.03pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The energy sector and water would be the first stop for me in returning them to the public and actually the UK.

Shed no tears for them wave them bye bye.

What about the shareholders and pensions invested in them. Could be public sector workers with an investment in both.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Feb 23 6.07pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Blimey.


All this about what a great job, stop whingeing stuff yet, if the job is so good, why do so many teachers leave after such a short time? Why the need for 'golden handshakes'?.

As for Covid, many a time I still had to teach remotely.

People who have never taught find it difficult to understand what a difficult, specialised, exhausting job it is. Indeed, when it was announced that schools were going back after Covid, you could almost hear a resounding cheer from parents across the land: Covid had reminded them that teaching young minds is not piece of p**s.

When I started teaching 13 years ago the money I earned was vastly different to what it is now: in real terms, I've had 30% pay cut.

That's ok is it?

The support staff at my college, those who support staff in class - another highly specialised job- are being paid under the living wage. They are leaving in droves and the support department are desperately asking if anyone has friends or family who might be able to join in order to relieve the pressure on classrooms. It's like taking people off the streets - desperate.

All these people may 'get your goat' but people who get my goat are those who pronounce without knowing what they're talking about. I think they should 'take a hike'.

Sorry.

Edited by Glazier#1 (07 Feb 2023 11.35am)

I would guess a great many teachers leave because the little t w a t s they teach cannot be chastised. Abuse both verbal and physical from pupils to teachers is no doubt covered up and removed from Facebook etc. if parents were actually a role model and not such arse holes who believe it’s up to the state to bring their kids up then a bit more respect would mean teachers enjoy their jobs and stay. How’s that for a reason !

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 07 Feb 23 6.08pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Ricky Gervais and Dave Chapelle are probably the two biggest comedians in the world at the moment, by the way.

the Pubic Sector has been destroyed by serious joyless po-faced lefties.

No Teacher can get away with the Ricky Gervais routine.....try it at a Comprehensive in Croydon if you do not believe me

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Feb 23 7.06pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

What about the shareholders and pensions invested in them. Could be public sector workers with an investment in both.

They could be transferred over to Great British energy plc the new Starmer proposed British company.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Feb 23 7.10pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Britain, if it continues at its present rate, will end up being owned by Aussie start-ups, much of it is foreign owned anyway.

What Singapore billionaire cares if his British water utility pours out raw sewage affecting British consumers.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 07 Feb 23 7.27pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Britain, if it continues at its present rate, will end up being owned by Aussie start-ups, much of it is foreign owned anyway.

What Singapore billionaire cares if his British water utility pours out raw sewage affecting British consumers.

The Private Frazer of HOL - we're doomed I tell ya!

 

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Glazier#1 Flag 07 Feb 23 8.10pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I would guess a great many teachers leave because the little t w a t s they teach cannot be chastised. Abuse both verbal and physical from pupils to teachers is no doubt covered up and removed from Facebook etc. if parents were actually a role model and not such arse holes who believe it’s up to the state to bring their kids up then a bit more respect would mean teachers enjoy their jobs and stay. How’s that for a reason !

How's that for a rant?!.

On what do you base your post, Cry? As you write - a guess.

You're guessing that a great many leave the profession because of what you state.

Ok. Fine if you want to rant but that's all it is, mate,: a rant.

What about 35 in a class? (no one of which can be taught properly at that scale) what about incredible, unsustainable workload? No?

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 08 Feb 23 12.13am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Britain, if it continues at its present rate, will end up being owned by Aussie start-ups, much of it is foreign owned anyway.

What Singapore billionaire cares if his British water utility pours out raw sewage affecting British consumers.

Whilst the post is nonsense in general, I would fully support the public ownership of water, the taxpayer would then realise the cost of maintaining a good service with the UK's antiquated systems. that being said, water for me is something that cannot be private sector.

As a principle, I don't think any service with a geographical monopoly can be private, i.e rail. The age old problem is that when the railways were public, and I used them, the service was rubbish.

How to find a happy medium where " profits " are solely used for investing in the business?

It will never be resolved sadly IMHO

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Feb 23 1.38am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The expansion of the super rich are largely the gradual consequences of financial and banking reforms made to currencies back in the early seventies.

If parties like Labour actually truly cared about this then they would be looking at that.....not talking about the fantasy of 'taxing' the super rich.

They think normies are stupid and unfortunately most normies don't have the time/interest to research this stuff and find out that the super rich don't invest much in taxable assets.

For obvious reasons.

Labour know this though, which is why it's so irritating to continually hear them lie to the working class.

I'm sure that they will tax more but it certainly won't be the super rich who will be paying the vast majority of that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2023 1.48am)

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Feb 23 6.00am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

How's that for a rant?!.

On what do you base your post, Cry? As you write - a guess.

You're guessing that a great many leave the profession because of what you state.

Ok. Fine if you want to rant but that's all it is, mate,: a rant.

What about 35 in a class? (no one of which can be taught properly at that scale) what about incredible, unsustainable workload? No?

Ok so if all 35 kids were ‘good’ kids who didn’t play up but wanted to learn and had respect are you saying a decent teacher couldn’t teach them?
You only need one oik to disrupt a whole class and make this number unteachable.
How do you know this anyway, have you also got a teacher as a relative ?

Edited by cryrst (08 Feb 2023 6.01am)

 

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