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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 May 14 11.30am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

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Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 10.59am


Have you been to Stamford Hill?


... and Golders Green..... the last time I visited it was like a scene from Yentl.


But you don't feel threatened and won't be threatened, hey?


Who mentioned threats?

I was merely remarking that they were openly on view rather than "assimilating into the host culture".

The Jewish population in this country have never posed a threat I believe, whereas the Muslims are a different kettle of Gefilte fish.


I know you didn't. I'm agreeing with you and emphasising that with the point they're no threat with the question.


Sorry Rudi...... yeah the Jews are not threatening in the slightest as far as my experience goes.

Not been to Palestine then?


Fackin 'ell we don't live in Palestine and if you asked plenty of Jews in North London and other sities, most of them oppose violence of any kind.

Hitler was wrong about their cleanliness as well. Very tidy.


And if you ask plenty of Muslims, Catholics and Hindus (other religions are available) they'd say they abhorred violence too.


Integrate as well? Erm....

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 May 14 11.31am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Quote DanH at 27 May 2014 11.29am

This thread is proper cringe.


care to elaborate, dear?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 14 11.39am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 11.26am

And if you ask plenty of Muslims, Catholics and Hindus (other religions are available) they'd say they abhorred violence too.


I'm not aware of a threat from Hindus or Catholics.....But while I'd agree that plenty of Muslims are up standing people....It's crass to say we don't have a problem here.

If you think that all religions within this country are the same in terms of threat then I think you're deluded......The internal security budget would beg to differ.

I remember an ICM opinion poll of Muslims that said that four out of ten believed that Sharia law should be introduced into parts of the country.....That's a driect wish for a culture with a culture.

Shortly after the 7/7 bombings an ICM opinion poll stated that a fifth of Muslims had sympathy with the 'feelings and motives' of the suicide bombers who attacked London last July 7.....Though hardly anyone agreed with the violence itself.

Now it's stuff like that which makes me feel uncomfortable and.....I've never met a Jew or other religion that posed these problems.

We have problems with Islamic radicals here....That's nothing against Islam or its peaceful followers.....It's just a recognition of reality.


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2014 11.56am)

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 27 May 14 11.39am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Quote DanH at 27 May 2014 11.29am

This thread is proper cringe.


Poof.

 

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Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 11.22am

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Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 10.59am


Have you been to Stamford Hill?


... and Golders Green..... the last time I visited it was like a scene from Yentl.


But you don't feel threatened and won't be threatened, hey?


Who mentioned threats?

I was merely remarking that they were openly on view rather than "assimilating into the host culture".

The Jewish population in this country have never posed a threat I believe, whereas the Muslims are a different kettle of Gefilte fish.


I know you didn't. I'm agreeing with you and emphasising that with the point they're no threat with the question.


Sorry Rudi...... yeah the Jews are not threatening in the slightest as far as my experience goes.

Not been to Palestine then?


Kind of understandable that they're a bit jittery. But then again, you would be as well if you were surrounded by countries who want to obliterate you.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 May 14 11.46am

Quote Stirlingsays at 27 May 2014 11.39am

Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 11.26am

And if you ask plenty of Muslims, Catholics and Hindus (other religions are available) they'd say they abhorred violence too.


I'm not aware of a threat from Hindus or Catholics.....But while I'd agree that plenty of Muslims are up standing people....It's crass to say we don't have a problem here.

If you think that all religions within this country are the same in terms of threat then I think you're deluded......The internal security budget would beg to differ.

I remember an ICM opinion poll of Muslims that said that four out of ten believed that Sharia law should be introduced into parts of the country.....That's a driect wish for a culture with a culture.

Shortly after the 7/7 bombings an ICM opinion poll stated that a fifth of Muslims had sympathy with the 'feelings and motives' of the suicide bombers who attacked London last July 7.....Though hardly anyone agreed with the violence itself.

Now it's stuff like that which makes me feel uncomfortable and.....I've never met a Jew or anyone other religion that posed those problems.

We have problems with Islamic radicals here....That's nothing against Islam or its peaceful followers.....It's just a recognition of reality.


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2014 11.42am)


Where did I say all religions have the same threat? Putting words into people's mouths is poor form. You're not the only one to do it.
Now sit back and enjoy this rant
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Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 14 11.51am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 11.46am


Where did I say all religions have the same threat? Putting words into people's mouths is poor form. You're not the only one to do it.
Now sit back and enjoy this rant
[Link]

Edited by nickgusset (27 May 2014 11.47am)

I would say that your previous post stating, 'And if you ask plenty of Muslims, Catholics and Hindus (other religions are available) they'd say they abhorred violence too.'......That implies exactly that.

If it doesn't mean that please tell me Nick what exactly do you mean?


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2014 11.56am)

 

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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 27 May 14 12.05pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

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Shokin:
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I have read some of this before ...can't believe he is allowed to get away with it.......No sorry I can


And some on the left call us 'swivel eyed'.....There's nothing more swivel eyed' than the ideology that allows people like these a platform from which they can gain positions.

And what party did this guy use for that....Labour.


To be fair this issue is so much more complex than that. This is well worth a read for a bit of balance: [Link]

That guy who wrote the piece for the Telegraph about Rahman has written three other pieces attacking him as well as producing a Dispatches documentary about him. In fact almost all of the negative media coverage of Rahman comes from one source. Personally, from what I've read, there does seem to be something slightly dodgy about his campaign, although there certainly seems to be an anti-left, anti-Islamic edge to the criticisms of him.

This is a guy who won, as an independent, in a borough scoring the highest voter turn out in London. It is still a minority Muslim area so you can't put it exclusively down to that either. As for your point about him being ex-Labour, it's slightly missing the mark given that he was ousted by them in the first place!

We'll have to wait and see what the recount and inquiry come back with, but from what I can see this is far from a black and white issue. Don't just believe unfounded accusations that seem to make up a lot of what the Telegraph are saying.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 May 14 12.13pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 27 May 2014 11.51am

Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 11.46am


Where did I say all religions have the same threat? Putting words into people's mouths is poor form. You're not the only one to do it.
Now sit back and enjoy this rant
[Link]

Edited by nickgusset (27 May 2014 11.47am)

I would say that your previous post stating, 'And if you ask plenty of Muslims, Catholics and Hindus (other religions are available) they'd say they abhorred violence too.'......That implies exactly that.

If it doesn't mean that please tell me Nick what exactly do you mean?


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2014 11.56am)

It meant what I said. I didn't say they had the same or different levels of threat.

 
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Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 12.13pm

It meant what I said. I didn't say they had the same or different levels of threat.

So pretty much you didn't say anything.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 27 May 14 12.30pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

I've yet to meet a muslim or jew who hasn't been anything less than amiable, gentle and friendly.

Can't say the same for Catholics and Church of England/Protestant types.

Because I've met many more of the latter of course but still...

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 May 14 12.30pm

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Quote nickgusset at 27 May 2014 12.13pm

It meant what I said. I didn't say they had the same or different levels of threat.

So pretty much you didn't say anything.


It was a riposte to counterbalance your if you ask plenty of jews comment.

 
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