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Stirlingsays 29 Jul 18 4.11pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Jacob Rees-Mogg Says It Could Take 50 Years To Reap The Benefits Of Brexit. 'We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time,' says leading Brexiteer. As usual context flies high over your head Steely. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Jul 18 4.11pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Jacob Rees-Mogg Says It Could Take 50 Years To Reap The Benefits Of Brexit.

'We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time,' says leading Brexiteer.

As usual context flies high over your head Steely.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Jul 18 4.49pm
Originally posted by big_palace_fan This post has been merged from a topic called 'Changed your mind?' by Midlands Eagle Fellow palace fans, I haven't posted on here for years and have a question. There has been lots of talk recently about a second referendum on Brexit, a people's vote etc. Whether you voted remain or leave last time, have any of your changed your mind? Say the choice was 1) Leave with no deal and the predicted fallout happens 2) Remain on the same terms as pre 23 June 2016 Would any of your vote differently to how you did the first time around? '2) Remain on the same terms as pre 23 June 2016'. I am wondering if that would still be the case, that the UK can still continue on current terms ?????
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Croydon 29 Jul 18 4.49pm

Originally posted by big_palace_fan

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Changed your mind?' by Midlands Eagle

Fellow palace fans, I haven't posted on here for years and have a question.

There has been lots of talk recently about a second referendum on Brexit, a people's vote etc.

Whether you voted remain or leave last time, have any of your changed your mind?

Say the choice was
1) Leave with no deal and the predicted fallout happens
2) Remain on the same terms as pre 23 June 2016

Would any of your vote differently to how you did the first time around?

'2) Remain on the same terms as pre 23 June 2016'.

I am wondering if that would still be the case, that the UK can still continue on current terms ?????

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europalace Europe 29 Jul 18 5.22pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 '2) Remain on the same terms as pre 23 June 2016'. I am wondering if that would still be the case, that the UK can still continue on current terms ????? I think it would have to make a much bigger payment into the EU than it does now. Also, teh EU has just signed massive trade deals with the US and Japan. The UK issue is seen as an irritating admin issue now, a bit like a mosquito bite, soon disappears.
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Europe 29 Jul 18 5.22pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'2) Remain on the same terms as pre 23 June 2016'.

I am wondering if that would still be the case, that the UK can still continue on current terms ?????

I think it would have to make a much bigger payment into the EU than it does now. Also, teh EU has just signed massive trade deals with the US and Japan. The UK issue is seen as an irritating admin issue now, a bit like a mosquito bite, soon disappears.

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Stirlingsays 29 Jul 18 5.30pm
Originally posted by europalace I think it would have to make a much bigger payment into the EU than it does now. Also, teh EU has just signed massive trade deals with the US and Japan. The UK issue is seen as an irritating admin issue now, a bit like a mosquito bite, soon disappears. You lot, I tell you....fantasy land is too close to reality for yea. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Jul 18 5.30pm

Originally posted by europalace

You lot, I tell you....fantasy land is too close to reality for yea.

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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Jul 18 5.51pm
Originally posted by europalace I think it would have to make a much bigger payment into the EU than it does now. Also, teh EU has just signed massive trade deals with the US and Japan. The UK issue is seen as an irritating admin issue now, a bit like a mosquito bite, soon disappears. It really looks like it would be beneficial for EU to have the UK limited paid access to the single market without the veto or any say in how things are run. Thus protecting the integrity of the single market and disposing of a perpetual pain in the arse at the same time.
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Croydon 29 Jul 18 5.51pm

Originally posted by europalace

It really looks like it would be beneficial for EU to have the UK limited paid access to the single market without the veto or any say in how things are run.

Thus protecting the integrity of the single market and disposing of a perpetual pain in the arse at the same time.

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europalace Europe 29 Jul 18 6.01pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You lot, I tell you....fantasy land is too close to reality for yea. Fantasy land? The EU deals with the US and Japan have been done. They are done deals. The UK hasn't agreed a single trade deal with an country at all since announcing it wants to leave the EU and even the government concedes that it will take years to agree any trade deals beyond 2019. When you have your head firmly buried in the sand as many do who voted to leave the EU and now regret that mistake but will never admit it, you start dreaming because your head is upside down and it's dark, very dark, all sorts of fantasies and dreams will appear as reality. Edited by europalace (29 Jul 2018 6.02pm)
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Europe 29 Jul 18 6.01pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You lot, I tell you....fantasy land is too close to reality for yea.

Fantasy land? The EU deals with the US and Japan have been done. They are done deals. The UK hasn't agreed a single trade deal with an country at all since announcing it wants to leave the EU and even the government concedes that it will take years to agree any trade deals beyond 2019. When you have your head firmly buried in the sand as many do who voted to leave the EU and now regret that mistake but will never admit it, you start dreaming because your head is upside down and it's dark, very dark, all sorts of fantasies and dreams will appear as reality.

Edited by europalace (29 Jul 2018 6.02pm)

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Stirlingsays 29 Jul 18 6.26pm
Originally posted by europalace Fantasy land? The EU deals with the US and Japan have been done. They are done deals. The UK hasn't agreed a single trade deal with an country at all since announcing it wants to leave the EU and even the government concedes that it will take years to agree any trade deals beyond 2019. ? That's a risible point. We can't legally strike deals with foreign countries while we are apart of the EU. Originally posted by europalace When you have your head firmly buried in the sand as many do who voted to leave the EU and now regret that mistake but will never admit it, you start dreaming because your head is upside down and it's dark, very dark, all sorts of fantasies and dreams will appear as reality. Edited by europalace (29 Jul 2018 6.02pm) Voting to leave the EU was the best thing.....It was a fantastic day. Your philosophy about the EU is losing all over the EU as the right gathers strength. You will never understand......Still.....loving the fact that an EU fanboy relocated to one of the most EU skeptic countries. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2018 6.26pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Jul 18 6.26pm

Originally posted by europalace

That's a risible point. We can't legally strike deals with foreign countries while we are apart of the EU.

Originally posted by europalace

When you have your head firmly buried in the sand as many do who voted to leave the EU and now regret that mistake but will never admit it, you start dreaming because your head is upside down and it's dark, very dark, all sorts of fantasies and dreams will appear as reality.

Edited by europalace (29 Jul 2018 6.02pm)

Voting to leave the EU was the best thing.....It was a fantastic day. Your philosophy about the EU is losing all over the EU as the right gathers strength.

You will never understand......Still.....loving the fact that an EU fanboy relocated to one of the most EU skeptic countries.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2018 6.26pm)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Jul 18 6.30pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I voted leave but I'm not sure that I would again as I did so in good faith that the Government were capable of negotiating our exit but now that I know we couldn't negotiate our way out of a paper bag I would probably change my vote and hope for another referendum when we had a set of stronger Government ministers You could wait a long time, if not for eternity, for that to happen. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 29 Jul 18 6.30pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I voted leave but I'm not sure that I would again as I did so in good faith that the Government were capable of negotiating our exit but now that I know we couldn't negotiate our way out of a paper bag I would probably change my vote and hope for another referendum when we had a set of stronger Government ministers

You could wait a long time, if not for eternity, for that to happen.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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europalace Europe 29 Jul 18 6.35pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Voting to leave the EU was the best thing.....It was a fantastic day. Your philosophy about the EU is losing all over the EU as the right gathers strength. You will never understand......Still.....loving the fact that an EU fanboy relocated to one of the most EU skeptic countries. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2018 6.26pm) haha, keep your fingers in your ears and keep whistling while everyone else moves on. Regarding where I'm currently living, the current administration is against some of the immigration policies of the EU. They have no intention of leaving the EU or the Euro, the same for Italy. Both Austria and Italy are pushing for change within the EU, which has been a process ongoing since the EU's inception. It's always been an evolving trade block and union. At least Austria and Italy have the guts to push for change unlike the UK which simply has never been a team player unless it's guaranteed to win, a bit like the spoiled brat at school who thinks he/she is aways better than everyone else but on finding out reality is different, decides to try and ruin the toys of the other kids in a fit of jealousy. Enjoy your isolation after next year but reality looks like you'll be in limbo for years with the EU picking the best pieces of any deals as it has the trade deals with the rest of the world while enjoying the €50 billion penalty plus the many other €billions from the businesses that are moving or already have moved from the UK to the Eurozone. Edited by europalace (29 Jul 2018 6.38pm)
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Europe 29 Jul 18 6.35pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Voting to leave the EU was the best thing.....It was a fantastic day. Your philosophy about the EU is losing all over the EU as the right gathers strength.

You will never understand......Still.....loving the fact that an EU fanboy relocated to one of the most EU skeptic countries.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2018 6.26pm)

haha, keep your fingers in your ears and keep whistling while everyone else moves on.

Regarding where I'm currently living, the current administration is against some of the immigration policies of the EU. They have no intention of leaving the EU or the Euro, the same for Italy. Both Austria and Italy are pushing for change within the EU, which has been a process ongoing since the EU's inception. It's always been an evolving trade block and union. At least Austria and Italy have the guts to push for change unlike the UK which simply has never been a team player unless it's guaranteed to win, a bit like the spoiled brat at school who thinks he/she is aways better than everyone else but on finding out reality is different, decides to try and ruin the toys of the other kids in a fit of jealousy. Enjoy your isolation after next year but reality looks like you'll be in limbo for years with the EU picking the best pieces of any deals as it has the trade deals with the rest of the world while enjoying the €50 billion penalty plus the many other €billions from the businesses that are moving or already have moved from the UK to the Eurozone.

Edited by europalace (29 Jul 2018 6.38pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Jul 18 6.49pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Voting to leave the EU was the best thing.....It was a fantastic day. Your philosophy about the EU is losing all over the EU as the right gathers strength. You will never understand......Still.....loving the fact that an EU fanboy relocated to one of the most EU skeptic countries. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2018 6.26pm) That's a risible point. We can't legally strike deals with foreign countries while we are apart of the EU. 'Foreign countries' want the EU single market. The UK could never offer any of the advantages of the single market. So trade deals there are none. After we leave especially.
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Croydon 29 Jul 18 6.49pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Voting to leave the EU was the best thing.....It was a fantastic day. Your philosophy about the EU is losing all over the EU as the right gathers strength.

You will never understand......Still.....loving the fact that an EU fanboy relocated to one of the most EU skeptic countries.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2018 6.26pm)

That's a risible point. We can't legally strike deals with foreign countries while we are apart of the EU.

'Foreign countries' want the EU single market.

The UK could never offer any of the advantages of the single market.

So trade deals there are none.

After we leave especially.

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 29 Jul 18 7.36pm
Can't say that I've ever enjoyed or supported the politics of the EU but how did it ever come to this? I'm sure we just joined an customs/ economics union back in 1973? Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Can't say that I've ever enjoyed or supported the politics of the EU but how did it ever come to this? I'm sure we just joined an customs/ economics union back in 1973?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Jul 18 8.19pm
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham Can't say that I've ever enjoyed or supported the politics of the EU but how did it ever come to this? I'm sure we just joined an customs/ economics union back in 1973? What than H of P, given 40 years plus, of being in the customs/ economics union, could possibly be the point of leaving it? Something better? What, there is nothing - really absolutely nothing. No trading/economic arrangements in prospect at all, with anybody. That's how ridiculous it really is.
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Croydon 29 Jul 18 8.19pm

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

Can't say that I've ever enjoyed or supported the politics of the EU but how did it ever come to this? I'm sure we just joined an customs/ economics union back in 1973?

What than H of P, given 40 years plus, of being in the customs/ economics union, could possibly be the point of leaving it?

Something better? What, there is nothing - really absolutely nothing.

No trading/economic arrangements in prospect at all, with anybody.

That's how ridiculous it really is.

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