How the human race made it as far as even the 20th century, let alone now, without vaccines must really slip most peoples minds. We live with viruses. We need viruses. They are a part of the whole ecosystem. Eliminate them, and the system will collapse. We need to live alongside them.

Like those annoying bugs and slugs in your garden, the do an essential job.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

I didn't say it could! I deliberately used "heavy" and "predictably".

Your analogy is way off target. Anti-vaxers are doing the precise opposite of the vaccinated. I am doing exactly the same as you, and everyone else here. I am expressing my opinions.

So in suggesting "some" (aka as you) want me to "stick a gag over my gob" is you doing what the anti-vaxers do, and then try to accuse me of doing. It's not what I need at all. It's about YOU and what YOU want.

C- Must try harder.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Whilst that's true of some viruses, it isn't of others.

Of course the human race has survived, and probably would again if we abandoned vaccinations. But at what cost to human life and economic prosperity?

Up to 100 million people are thought to have died from Spanish flu, which was the most recent pandemic and closest comparative to Covid. That was when the world population was much smaller and international travel almost unknown in comparison to today.

Imagine what the consequences of Spanish flu spreading unchecked in today's world, and you can start to imagine what might have been without the vaccines.

Earlier pandemics would have been somewhat contained by a lack of travel and less crowded lifestyles, but we know they occurred.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

We had an exchange yesterday which went;

Me: "You say that all you'd need is evidence, but when that is presented, you would simply refute the conclusion, or the source, or the scientist, or the media outlet presenting it."

You: "I don't think that's particularly fair"

When a pharma company tells us X pill is a painkiller, or helps reduce the affects of allergies by x%, we don't view that as something to distrust, but when the same companies talk about another one of their products, it's not to be trusted.

I don't agree at all with your contention re mixing; most unvaccinated people I have come across are not more cautious - they simply don't recognise the threat and do whatever they want as a result.

Sure. I don’t like it but I wear one whenever required, which in Scotland has been pretty much everywhere all the time.
Not saying this article reflects on any of the fine users of this site but there are some who are quite sanctimonious about it despite the fact that after two years lots of them seem incapable of putting one on properly.

It looks as though the more challenging if you like (with higher transmission) variants are coming from areas with low vaccination rates.

In Kent when that district near Chatham or wherever had huge amounts of positive cases, and wherever in the south of the African continent. India with the Delta variant. Botswana possibly. It was found in South Africa, not necessarily mutated in South Africa.

COYP