I don't see it getting to that point, but I do see those determined to behave like this facing such a restricted life style that they may wish to change their minds.

They may not be able to enter a shop, restaurant or any place of leisure or entertainment. No pubs. No Selhurst. No public transport. No flying. Restricted work opportunities. Homeschooling. No social contact with anyone other than anti-vaxers. Life mostly online or TV.

You are entitled to your views, but others are also entitled to theirs. If theirs is that you are a danger to others, then it would follow they have the right to protect themselves from you.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

More likely over your granny’s dead body but hey, as long as you are all right

While I think it's fair to have limits on travel and the like based on vaccination status while covid-19 is still an evolving situation, I wouldn't ever be in favour of enforced vaccination or anything like that. Once we trade off personal autonomy to that extent I do see that as a worry for how governments will perceive the people and the control they have over them. Some might see that as a bit tin foil, but look at the likes of China, their society and how good they are at gaining compliance. Sure there's a plus side to that (such as at times like these), but there are real negatives too.

I'm pleased that the vast majority of people have been vaccinated and have made that choice, and see that as being good enough for the most part. The most ardently against both vaccination and masks to a point of hysteria (beyond anything seen here) are always going to latch onto something or other to drive themselves mad over. The other months as I left a train station there was someone with a megaphone reeling off all kinds of madness while warning people about vaccinations and masks. I found it comical on account that the vast majority of people had already been vaccinated (so whats the point?), and most of those who didn't wear masks at that point weren't doing so out of any kind of forthright ideological statement, but more because they'd likely forgotten to do so or couldn't be bothered on account of the success of said vaccine .

My condolences

I hope you have another. If so please look after her well.

I do regular antigen / PCR testing before I go and see my parents / vulnerable people! Whereas my point is that people that are vaccinated think they can't catch / spread the virus and they socialise and visit the elderly and vulnerable and this is the thing you can pass it on / transmit the virus even if you are vaccinated! And then there is me unvaxxed but I do regular testing!

I did a test 3 weeks ago came back positive and if I hadn't done the test at the time I was on the way to catch the bus to the gym and then up to parents that night! Because I tested I immediately isolated got a PCR to confirm and I stopped from spreading it to vulnerable people! Now most vaccinated people do not do this! They think they are safe / can't transmit the virus when they clearly can!

When the authoritarian left speak....it definitely reminds us of something eaglesdare. They will want us wearing labels next.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Dec 2021 10.35pm)

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