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Ukraine Situation - Should We Be Worried?
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BlueJay  UK 04 Mar 22 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
If there was ever a sign the war is coming to an end due to British intervention, Chicken Kievs will henceforth identify as Chicken Kyivs! Thank the Lord for Sainsbury's eh! Any other suggested renaming of goods would be greatly appreciated by myself Kyiv Kat
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 Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 04 Mar 22 4.47pm |
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Supermarkets getting loads of free advertising.
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| Grumbles 04 Mar 22 4.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
That's a balanced opinion, but in our current climate that doesn't seem to exist and just means you're giving Putin sympathy apparently. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Mar 2022 3.55pm) [cut due to size of post] pretty good post. in today's world all information needs to be analysed through a personal truth filter. However on balance we have a better understanding than the average Russian. As you say we have been there before from the US POV with Cuba and. we know how that went. My worry was Putin used to be "ultra-rationale" logical to the extreme, but the last 12 months he has changed or he has underestimated some basic assumptions, perhaps due to the lack of true data due to his own isolation. Edited by Grumbles (04 Mar 2022 4.50pm)
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 04 Mar 22 4.52pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Kyiv Kat Not bad. Could watch Gillette Soccer Saturday on Zelenskyy Sports News tomorrow?
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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| Grumbles 04 Mar 22 4.54pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Not bad. Could watch Gillette Soccer Saturday on Zelenskyy Sports News tomorrow? don't know if has mentioned but i believe China is boycotting Premier league this weekend.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 04 Mar 22 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by Grumbles
don't know if has mentioned but i believe China is boycotting Premier league this weekend. I believe this is true. They'll have to settle for watching, instead of Wolverhampton, the likes of Wycombe and Bolton Taiwanderers
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| Grumbles 04 Mar 22 5.01pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I believe this is true. They'll have to settle for watching, instead of Wolverhampton, the likes of Wycombe and Bolton Taiwanderers They have this instead.
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Ouzo Dan  Behind you 04 Mar 22 5.29pm |
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Of the 2700 Manpad personal anti air systems Germany sent to Ukraine, 700 of them need to be binned - stored in terrible conditions and their rotten through. Pretty much every central/eastern European country has neo Nazis, I don't really get the pant pissing over Nazis. No one in Russia actually watches RT the only people being censored is us.
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steeleye20  Croydon 04 Mar 22 5.36pm |
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The outcome of this war will be the west beefing up its operations against Russia, although the border may be pushed back it will force NATO to be expansionary. So Putin will not achieve his goal even if he wins. He could have settled with his gains in eastern ukraine which could be justified due to the ignored mini-war against the russian-speaking population. Now it is him committing the atrocities he accused the ukrainians of, 90% of whom are just ordinary civilians going about their lives. How he got the idea in his mind of de-nazifying them, now he just lies to himself about everything. I'm afraid each morning we will discover how hollow and shallow we are in the west, we will not be physically helping Ukraine.
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| BlueJay UK 04 Mar 22 5.36pm |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
...the only people being censored is us. Multiple long standard Russian TV stations have been shut down for genuinely covering the war. It's not discussed as a 'war' in Russia, and legislation has just been brought in with the intention of incarcerating those who do not parrot the Putin line. In addition, those protesting, from children to Yelena Osipova, who survived the Nazi Germany siege during WWII, have been arrested. At last count we were at about 8000 arrests of those simply peacefully protesting the war. So yeah, there's that. Based on what you say, it's disappointing that so much crap military equipment has been given to the Ukrainians. Edited by BlueJay (04 Mar 2022 5.38pm)
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| Grumbles 04 Mar 22 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Of the 2700 Manpad personal anti air systems Germany sent to Ukraine, 700 of them need to be binned - stored in terrible conditions and their rotten through. Pretty much every central/eastern European country has neo Nazis, I don't really get the pant pissing over Nazis. No one in Russia actually watches RT the only people being censored is us. the ex-soviet stuff, Streila [sp?] AAW? worse than Seacat though not quite the same. Neo nazi stuff all countries do, we obviously do. Banning RT just means BBC gets banned. TBH, IT is good to know the red propaganda. Edited by Grumbles (04 Mar 2022 5.48pm)
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| Ouzo Dan Behind you 04 Mar 22 5.53pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Multiple long standard Russian TV stations have been shut down for genuinely covering the war. It's not discussed as a 'war' in Russia, and legislation has just been brought in with the intention of incarcerating those who do not parrot the Putin line. In addition, those protesting, from children to Yelena Osipova, who survived the Nazi Germany siege during WWII, have been arrested. At last count we were at about 8000 arrests of those simply peacefully protesting the war. So yeah, there's that. Based on what you say, it's disappointing that so much crap military equipment has been given to the Ukrainians. Edited by BlueJay (04 Mar 2022 5.38pm)
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