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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 20 6.21pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If it’s not our business then how are we supposed to help the situation?

Don't get involved, unless you wish to offer support. You aren't the target. It's the millions of watchers around the world who are and whose awareness they are trying to boost.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Dec 20 7.21pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Don't get involved, unless you wish to offer support. You aren't the target. It's the millions of watchers around the world who are and whose awareness they are trying to boost.

That still doesn’t address any outcome. Boost awareness? OK, job done. The issue that’s been identified is that there is “systemic racism” so how is that to be addressed?

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Dec 20 7.26pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

OMG!

NOT the POLITICAL movement. That has specifically and comprehensively been denied by the players and the FA. The movement they mean is that of the awareness that something now needed to be done which started in the USA. This is an extract from that article. Politics isn't mentioned:-

"The BLM movement and taking a knee has grown in prominence in the United Kingdom following the death of George Floyd in the US in May, which sparked protests around the world."

Colin Kaepernick started it. This is just a continuation. No politics involved.

Your God notwithstanding the letters BLM were on the players shirts and on banners around the ground. Claiming to support the aims of the organisation but not the organisation itself is like saying you just like the smell of cocaine.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Dec 20 7.27pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

At the start of a BLM thread I’m pretty sure I asked it’s imperative to know what it is they want. I see nobody (in football) is any the wiser. Why am I not surprised? I’m now reading it’s to show the world viewers. Show them what? How is it going to change the views of people in the Far East for example? It isn’t, just as our society hasn’t influenced East European racists.

I’ve said before, the 2 things I’d change pretty quickly would be

1) making the penal system and custodial sentences fairer.

2) changing history taught in the school curriculum. Far too much time is no doubt spent on history that has little relevance to now and people today anyway. Just fast track those bits. But do not give white children guilt complexes. The British empire is more complex than how the usual idiots are trying to rewrite it and most people then weren’t responsible for the bad parts so people today shouldn’t be either. It would also educate the completely moronic people I read now and again spouting off hatred of the country they’re living in. England and Britain.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (18 Dec 2020 8.27pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Dec 20 8.11pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Your God notwithstanding the letters BLM were on the players shirts and on banners around the ground. Claiming to support the aims of the organisation but not the organisation itself is like saying you just like the smell of cocaine.

Succinctly put.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 20 8.43pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Your God notwithstanding the letters BLM were on the players shirts and on banners around the ground. Claiming to support the aims of the organisation but not the organisation itself is like saying you just like the smell of cocaine.

That is a completely separate issue.

It is perfectly possible to argue that the choice of logo has been a bad mistake by who-ever was given the marketing job.

It is not possible to argue that the players support the politics behind the BLM political organisation.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Dec 20 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


That's discrimination.

Why do you have to be in a minority? Unfair discrimination doesn't need a qualifier.....and we had DanH on here admitting and supporting discrimination based on race for jobs where he saw fit....and none of you lefties made a peep.

BLM and all the rest of them are shakedown organizations for a 'diversity industry' who are only interested in money and power and will BS and lie till the cows come home.

I remember putting the 'diversity job' adverts on here a few months back....organizations like the NHS giving jobs for 'diversity' while real workers are being laid off all round the country.

People like you and Ali G...err sorry I mean DanH attacked me for it....apparently if you don't support the 'diversity industry' you're not nice....or some simple minded crap like that.


Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2020 4.44pm)

Are you really so thick as to not understand why being in a minority puts you in a less powerful situation than being in a majority group?

Maybe that explains why you supported Brexit. Because the small guy holds all the power eh?

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Dec 20 9.09pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Great, what are BLM suggesting should be done re black gangs stabbing white kids or Asians gang raping white school kids?

Probably not a lot I’m guessing.

The overall theme was don't get in trouble, work hard, study and improve yourself, gain support and give support, look after everyone and grasp your opportunities.

Funnily enough they didn't talk much about don't go round stabbing up or raping people, maybe because the park was full of small kids and their parents listening to the speakers. And maybe because the message is one of hope not hatred. Was I really the only one to 'hear' their message?

Anyway, get used to it. It's big with young people so they tell me.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Dec 20 9.14pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Are you really so thick as to not understand why being in a minority puts you in a less powerful situation than being in a majority group?

Maybe that explains why you supported Brexit. Because the small guy holds all the power eh?

Really?

If minorities are more likely to be in 'less powerful' situations...presumably because of 'oppression', then why is it that both our Chinese and Indian minorities both earn higher proportionally than the white British majority.

If what you stated was true, this wouldn't be allowed to happen.....but it isn't, it's based upon lies.

And if the majority are more fortunate then explain why working class White boys are the least likely to go to university?

Again, if what you state were true, this would never be allowed to happen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2020 9.15pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Dec 20 9.39pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Are you really so thick as to not understand why being in a minority puts you in a less powerful situation than being in a majority group?

Maybe that explains why you supported Brexit. Because the small guy holds all the power eh?

So what? No one made people come here for work. You make it sound like we have a duty to look after other people's interests before our own.
Let me ask you a simple question. What have Black people done to warrant special treatment? When you go to a foreign country you must know that you have to work harder than the existing inhabitants.

The Indians know this. They endured casual racism and prejudice and yet are doing just fine. You could say the same of the Jews.
Why am I responsible for other people's inability to succeed? No one gave a s*** when I was skint or people called me nasty names.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Dec 2020 9.39pm)

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Dec 20 9.40pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Really?

If minorities are more likely to be in 'less powerful' situations...presumably because of 'oppression', then why is it that both our Chinese and Indian minorities both earn higher proportionally than the white British majority.

If what you stated was true, this wouldn't be allowed to happen.....but it isn't, it's based upon lies.

And if the majority are more fortunate then explain why working class White boys are the least likely to go to university?

Again, if what you state were true, this would never be allowed to happen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2020 9.15pm)

OK, clearly you are that thick

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Dec 20 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

OK, clearly you are that thick

So you can't answer the question because you know that your position is not credible. This episode has nothing to do with sense and everything to do with politics and profit.

 

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