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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 07 Jul 19 11.52am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What a load of self serving crap. The authorities were burying the whole problem so the idea that Robinson was the problem has no validity. Do explain how he jepodised any convictions.
By breaking the reporting restrictions, which apply to everyone and not just to journalists, he opened up the possibility of defence lawyers claiming that their client's defence had been compromised and the Judge agreeing and ordering a mistrial. The accused could then be set free pending a decision on whether a retrial would happen. Alongside that were the ongoing investigations all of which were linked. The authorities obviously wanted things to be kept quiet as possible whilst those investigations were carried out, presumably to avoid those being investigated being made aware they were under scrutiny. Blatant disregard for lawfully imposed restrictions has resulted in his conviction. No excuses possible.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 07 Jul 19 12.35pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Two judges had already decided that what he live-streamed was not prejudicial to the case. What he said on that stream was already reported information as he previously had done legal training. The court provided no information on reporting restrictions on the day, which they are supposed to. The attorney general – the legal adviser to the government! – removed the original charges and decided to add two different allegations. One of which was by speaking and photographing the defendants (racially aggravated gang rapists) could have made them feel anxious. Really? The attorney general believes this trial is in the public's interest and is costing taxpayers millions. Edited by Penge Eagle (07 Jul 2019 12.37pm)
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Teddy Eagle  07 Jul 19 12.36pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
By breaking the reporting restrictions, which apply to everyone and not just to journalists, he opened up the possibility of defence lawyers claiming that their client's defence had been compromised and the Judge agreeing and ordering a mistrial. The accused could then be set free pending a decision on whether a retrial would happen. Alongside that were the ongoing investigations all of which were linked. The authorities obviously wanted things to be kept quiet as possible whilst those investigations were carried out, presumably to avoid those being investigated being made aware they were under scrutiny. Blatant disregard for lawfully imposed restrictions has resulted in his conviction. No excuses possible. Lawfully imposed restrictions which include super-injunctions and gagging orders. There seem to be a few things it’s not in our interest to know about.
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cryrst  The garden of England 07 Jul 19 1.55pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
By breaking the reporting restrictions, which apply to everyone and not just to journalists, he opened up the possibility of defence lawyers claiming that their client's defence had been compromised and the Judge agreeing and ordering a mistrial. The accused could then be set free pending a decision on whether a retrial would happen. Alongside that were the ongoing investigations all of which were linked. The authorities obviously wanted things to be kept quiet as possible whilst those investigations were carried out, presumably to avoid those being investigated being made aware they were under scrutiny. Blatant disregard for lawfully imposed restrictions has resulted in his conviction. No excuses possible.
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| cryrst The garden of England 07 Jul 19 2.00pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle 7/7 today.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jul 19 2.13pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I don’t know but he claims he did and court officials have agreed. What "Robinson"claims and what is true are not necessarily the same. Court officials? Who exactly and why? Court officials are not lawyers, let alone Judges, so not competant to even offer an opinion.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jul 19 2.37pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
The only reason for the repetition is the repeated misunderstanding of why "Robinson" was charged and found guilty. This has no bearing on my, or your, opinion on child rape or anything else. It's only connection to it is via the cases that "Robinson's" activities might have compromised. Attempting to divert the discussion onto another subject, however important you might feel it to be, is to completely miss the point.
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| cryrst The garden of England 07 Jul 19 2.45pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The only reason for the repetition is the repeated misunderstanding of why "Robinson" was charged and found guilty. This has no bearing on my, or your, opinion on child rape or anything else. It's only connection to it is via the cases that "Robinson's" activities might have compromised. Attempting to divert the discussion onto another subject, however important you might feel it to be, is to completely miss the point. Answer the question then as this specific part of the post is about the court case I know.
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| Teddy Eagle 07 Jul 19 2.55pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What "Robinson"claims and what is true are not necessarily the same. Court officials? Who exactly and why? Court officials are not lawyers, let alone Judges, so not competant to even offer an opinion. Court officials would know if there were reporting restrictions but don’t let that get in the way of your argument.
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| Mapletree Croydon 07 Jul 19 3.42pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
Well mine's a flipping sight more serious than yours and 'Robinson's'. If he were interested in any other cases this would look a whole lot different. He is just after exposure to his main tenet, that Muslims are 'bad' in UK society. This is just a vehicle for his agenda When I see him campaign about the huge cases that I have highlighted recently on this site that don't happen to be primarily Muslims, then perhaps you can say his concern is child rape. And those cases have not seen any justice, unlike many of the recent grooming gang cases that 'Robinson' has been using and in so doing jeopardising.
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| cryrst The garden of England 07 Jul 19 4.12pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Well mine's a flipping sight more serious than yours and 'Robinson's'. If he were interested in any other cases this would look a whole lot different. He is just after exposure to his main tenet, that Muslims are 'bad' in UK society. This is just a vehicle for his agenda When I see him campaign about the huge cases that I have highlighted recently on this site that don't happen to be primarily Muslims, then perhaps you can say his concern is child rape. And those cases have not seen any justice, unlike many of the recent grooming gang cases that 'Robinson' has been using and in so doing jeopardising. Go on; what white grooming gangs do you have info on.
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| Invalid user 2019 07 Jul 19 5.09pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by cryrst
Go on; what white grooming gangs do you have info on. In fairness the church got away with this s*** on an industrial scale for decades.. but you're of course right than no depraved groups or gangs of whatever ilk should be able to get away with this. Edited by dollardays (07 Jul 2019 5.54pm)
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