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Brentmiester_General  Front line in the battle against t... 30 Jun 18 10.26pm |
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Should be put back up for again with the 16 to 17 year old voters allowed to vote as well as the expat voters. They’re allowed to vote on everything else after all. Edited by Brentmiester_General (01 Jul 2018 10.29am)
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 CambridgeEagle Sydenham 01 Jul 18 8.51am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Ah! Get out the tin hat and blame Murdoch & Dacre. The fact is that there is significant anti-Brexit press, including newspapers such as the Independent and the Guardian, and none mentions your view on this legislation. That is very strange when you consider both those papers are seeking the so-called ‘Peoples Vote’ and would use your view on that legislation at the drop of a hat. It makes no sense and I cannot help but think that you are grasping at straws. More deflecting from the point and failing to provide your own analysis of what is real legislation with royal assent. The guardian did report it. I provided the link to their reporting of it last time. You are just obfuscating now to avoid the reality of the situation. Here is it reported in the independent for good measure [Link] Sorry but no Irish border infrastructure is law. So Brexit has to work within this restriction. Which means CU and SM or unicorns.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 01 Jul 18 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
Should be put back upvote again with the 16 to 17 year old voters allowed to vote as well as the expat voters. They’re allowed to vote on everything else after. The old have spent decades shafting the young. Why would they stop now?
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| matt_himself Matataland 01 Jul 18 8.59am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
More deflecting from the point and failing to provide your own analysis of what is real legislation with royal assent. The guardian did report it. I provided the link to their reporting of it last time. You are just obfuscating now to avoid the reality of the situation. Here is it reported in the independent for good measure [Link] Sorry but no Irish border infrastructure is law. So Brexit has to work within this restriction. Which means CU and SM or unicorns. I am sorry but your protestation’s do not make sense. If this was what you said it was, it would be massive news, You can drive a bus through that amendment ‘...in the spirit of the Good Friday Agreement’. That is as ambiguous a phrase as is possible. You are thinking what you want to happen and we are leaving the CU and SM. Deal with it.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 01 Jul 18 10.28am |
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Is a soft Brexit worth it?
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| Matov 01 Jul 18 11.40am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
Is a soft Brexit worth it? Nope. Which is why no deal is now the only acceptable option. The EU never had an intention of offering us a deal that effectively saw us outside of their control.May has to go. Anything less and as far as I am concerned the 52% have been stabbed in the back.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 01 Jul 18 12.17pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
The old have spent decades shafting the young. Why would they stop now? Haha, how is this? Old people have more money because they are older and that's just not fair? The old who voted for Brexit were young when they voted to join Europe in the 70s and have witnessed its demise. Would you take financial advice or political view from an average 17 year old or an average 50 year old? Do me a favour.
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| matt_himself Matataland 01 Jul 18 12.39pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
Is a soft Brexit worth it? Hard Brexit it is. Let’s see the EU negotiating for their £39bn and not actin as hostile, petulant children.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 01 Jul 18 1.36pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Nope. Which is why no deal is now the only acceptable option. The EU never had an intention of offering us a deal that effectively saw us outside of their control.May has to go. Anything less and as far as I am concerned the 52% have been stabbed in the back. 'the 52% have been stabbed in the back' Really can't wait! Why not, there is a minority tory governmment.
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| Oliver Bodega Bay 01 Jul 18 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't know.....Trump seems to be managing it quite successfully. He doesn't play ball with bad agreements. The UK isn't going to have any issues flying....that's just yet another disingenuous piece of BS. You can do whatever the feck you want if you have the will to do it. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2018 6.17pm) Aviation is a unique sector with special arrangements. Hopefully a transition period will be agreed with the EU regarding aviation because it won't be sorted out in an afternoon. No deal means no fly. Aviation is not regulated by the WTO therefore is no WTO no deal option. We can not return to previous bilateral EU agreements as these are null and void due to Open Skies. We would most likely have to reach an agreement with the EU similar to the USA and Canada. The EU will attempt to divert transatlantic traffic from Heathrow to Frankfurt, Paris and Amsterdam. UK services to non EU states will also be effected. Once we leave we will lose 114 agreements neogiated by EU with non-member states. Recent talks with the US broke down due to them being unwilling to offer better terms than exist currently with the EU.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 01 Jul 18 2.00pm |
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Originally posted by Oliver
Aviation is a unique sector with special arrangements. Hopefully a transition period will be agreed with the EU regarding aviation because it won't be sorted out in an afternoon. No deal means no fly. Aviation is not regulated by the WTO therefore is no WTO no deal option. We can not return to previous bilateral EU agreements as these are null and void due to Open Skies. We would most likely have to reach an agreement with the EU similar to the USA and Canada. The EU will attempt to divert transatlantic traffic from Heathrow to Frankfurt, Paris and Amsterdam. UK services to non EU states will also be effected. Once we leave we will lose 114 agreements neogiated by EU with non-member states. Recent talks with the US broke down due to them being unwilling to offer better terms than exist currently with the EU. Interesting and, what no brexiteer will ever do, detail. Because when these matters get into actual detail they just fall to bits? Two years on but they can't run forever Mrs May and her minority millionaires and landlords.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Jul 18 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by Oliver
Aviation is a unique sector with special arrangements. Hopefully a transition period will be agreed with the EU regarding aviation because it won't be sorted out in an afternoon. No deal means no fly. Aviation is not regulated by the WTO therefore is no WTO no deal option. We can not return to previous bilateral EU agreements as these are null and void due to Open Skies. We would most likely have to reach an agreement with the EU similar to the USA and Canada. The EU will attempt to divert transatlantic traffic from Heathrow to Frankfurt, Paris and Amsterdam. UK services to non EU states will also be effected. Once we leave we will lose 114 agreements neogiated by EU with non-member states. Recent talks with the US broke down due to them being unwilling to offer better terms than exist currently with the EU. This doesn't have to be taken seriously because this situation won't happen. The reality is aviation is a huge money spinner for all nations. The UK has the fifth/sixth highest GDP in the world. It's disingenuous for anyone to make the suggestion that the business class are going to isolate the UK on aviation. Rules will adjust.
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