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Hrolf The Ganger 01 Dec 23 7.22pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
What’s not reasonable is pretending this is the only conflict in modern history where deliberate mass killings of civilians is fine and there are no international laws governing this type of military action. We agree the best outcome is the least deaths of innocents - you think the way that’s achieved is giving a modern military force carte blance to murder children and civilians as they see fit. As I have suggested. This situation has no good solutions. We are talking about the least worst options here. Egypt and all the other Muslim states in the region must also share responsibility for this mess, as they could provide an escape route. Hamas are the problem in terms of a resolution that could save lives. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (01 Dec 2023 7.22pm)
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 02 Dec 23 7.51am | |
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This has no simple solutions. Aid is being stopped to the Palestinian civilians in case it fuels Hammas war efforts. Meanwhile largely indiscriminate action is also killing or injuring civilians who are unable to avoid combat areas.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Dec 23 11.34am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It is Hamas that have deliberately carried out mass killings of civilians. Israel have warned were they are about to strike in an attempt to limit civilian casualties. Absolutely laughable. Just demonstrably untrue.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Dec 23 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
As I have suggested. This situation has no good solutions. We are talking about the least worst options here. Egypt and all the other Muslim states in the region must also share responsibility for this mess, as they could provide an escape route. Hamas are the problem in terms of a resolution that could save lives. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (01 Dec 2023 7.22pm) I don’t agree that civilians death in the tens of thousands is anything like the least worst option. You seem to be asking everyone but Israel to share responsibility.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 04 Dec 23 11.41am | |
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IDF in all parts of Gaza, widely reported. The UN have said alongside military action, the next big killer will be disease and famine. Ultimately the Palestinians will be killed or forced out, and Israel will absorb the former Palestinian areas.
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georgenorman 04 Dec 23 11.54am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Absolutely laughable. Just demonstrably untrue. Even the far-left Guardian has reported on Israel dropping leaflets into southern Gaza telling Palestinian civilians to leave four towns on the eastern edge of Khan Younis. They also use "knock on the roof" a term used by the Israel Defense Forces to describe its practice of dropping non-explosive or low-yield devices on the roofs of targeted homes that are thought to house terrorists in the Palestinian territories as a prior warning of imminent bombing attacks to give the inhabitants time to evacuate.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Dec 23 12.05pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Even the far-left Guardian has reported on Israel dropping leaflets into southern Gaza telling Palestinian civilians to leave four towns on the eastern edge of Khan Younis. They also use "knock on the roof" a term used by the Israel Defense Forces to describe its practice of dropping non-explosive or low-yield devices on the roofs of targeted homes that are thought to house terrorists in the Palestinian territories as a prior warning of imminent bombing attacks to give the inhabitants time to evacuate. And yet the ratio of civilians to military deaths remains where it is. At least they dropped a few leaflets before they razed another town - that makes it perfectly ok.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Dec 23 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
IDF in all parts of Gaza, widely reported. The UN have said alongside military action, the next big killer will be disease and famine. Ultimately the Palestinians will be killed or forced out, and Israel will absorb the former Palestinian areas. As has been the plan all along.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Dec 23 12.12pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I don’t agree that civilians death in the tens of thousands is anything like the least worst option. I don't know where you get that idea. I'm just being realistic. You seem top be very worried about what Israel are doing, but not so bothered about what Hamas have done and will do.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Dec 23 12.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I don't know where you get that idea. I'm just being realistic. You seem top be very worried about what Israel are doing, but not so bothered about what Hamas have done and will do. Probably because the IDF have killed tens of thousands and Hamas have killed a couple of hundred. I find the killing of innocents on either side abhorrent’.
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georgenorman 04 Dec 23 12.31pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
And yet the ratio of civilians to military deaths remains where it is. At least they dropped a few leaflets before they razed another town - that makes it perfectly ok. No reliance can be put on the figures supplied by the terrorists, Hamas. Whatever the true numbers are, how many are Hamas terrorist rather than civilians. My post was in response to your claiming that Israel deliberately carried out mass killings of civilians. Israel do attempt to limit civilian casualties.
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georgenorman 04 Dec 23 12.38pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Probably because the IDF have killed tens of thousands and Hamas have killed a couple of hundred. I find the killing of innocents on either side abhorrent’. Hamas killed at least 1,200, not 'a couple of hundred', in their October attack and injured and traumatised others. Hamas deliberately targeted the most vulnerable, babies, children, pregnant women, old people. They killed, tortured and raped with as much cruelty as they could. They took hostages of young children and old people. They paraded naked corpses through their streets while the Palestinian civilians spat on the bodies and cheered. They are beneath contempt - yet you support them.
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