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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Dec 23 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

What’s not reasonable is pretending this is the only conflict in modern history where deliberate mass killings of civilians is fine and there are no international laws governing this type of military action.

We agree the best outcome is the least deaths of innocents - you think the way that’s achieved is giving a modern military force carte blance to murder children and civilians as they see fit.

As I have suggested. This situation has no good solutions.

We are talking about the least worst options here.

Egypt and all the other Muslim states in the region must also share responsibility for this mess, as they could provide an escape route.
It seems that no one want Hamas in their backyard.

Hamas are the problem in terms of a resolution that could save lives.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (01 Dec 2023 7.22pm)

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 02 Dec 23 7.51am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

This has no simple solutions. Aid is being stopped to the Palestinian civilians in case it fuels Hammas war efforts. Meanwhile largely indiscriminate action is also killing or injuring civilians who are unable to avoid combat areas.
Unlike Yemen or Ukraine, the media are still able to report from close to combat areas. That is what makes the plight of Civilians that much tougher to watch.

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Dec 23 11.34am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

It is Hamas that have deliberately carried out mass killings of civilians. Israel have warned were they are about to strike in an attempt to limit civilian casualties.

Absolutely laughable. Just demonstrably untrue.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Dec 23 11.37am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

As I have suggested. This situation has no good solutions.

We are talking about the least worst options here.

Egypt and all the other Muslim states in the region must also share responsibility for this mess, as they could provide an escape route.
It seems that no one want Hamas in their backyard.

Hamas are the problem in terms of a resolution that could save lives.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (01 Dec 2023 7.22pm)

I don’t agree that civilians death in the tens of thousands is anything like the least worst option.

You seem to be asking everyone but Israel to share responsibility.

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 04 Dec 23 11.41am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

IDF in all parts of Gaza, widely reported. The UN have said alongside military action, the next big killer will be disease and famine.
It is going to be heart-breaking to watch over Christmas, but Israel is only allowing very limited aid into Gaza, as their military operations expand.

Ultimately the Palestinians will be killed or forced out, and Israel will absorb the former Palestinian areas.

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 04 Dec 23 11.54am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Absolutely laughable. Just demonstrably untrue.

Even the far-left Guardian has reported on Israel dropping leaflets into southern Gaza telling Palestinian civilians to leave four towns on the eastern edge of Khan Younis.

They also use "knock on the roof" a term used by the Israel Defense Forces to describe its practice of dropping non-explosive or low-yield devices on the roofs of targeted homes that are thought to house terrorists in the Palestinian territories as a prior warning of imminent bombing attacks to give the inhabitants time to evacuate.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Dec 23 12.05pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Even the far-left Guardian has reported on Israel dropping leaflets into southern Gaza telling Palestinian civilians to leave four towns on the eastern edge of Khan Younis.

They also use "knock on the roof" a term used by the Israel Defense Forces to describe its practice of dropping non-explosive or low-yield devices on the roofs of targeted homes that are thought to house terrorists in the Palestinian territories as a prior warning of imminent bombing attacks to give the inhabitants time to evacuate.

And yet the ratio of civilians to military deaths remains where it is.

At least they dropped a few leaflets before they razed another town - that makes it perfectly ok.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Dec 23 12.06pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

IDF in all parts of Gaza, widely reported. The UN have said alongside military action, the next big killer will be disease and famine.
It is going to be heart-breaking to watch over Christmas, but Israel is only allowing very limited aid into Gaza, as their military operations expand.

Ultimately the Palestinians will be killed or forced out, and Israel will absorb the former Palestinian areas.

As has been the plan all along.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Dec 23 12.12pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I don’t agree that civilians death in the tens of thousands is anything like the least worst option.

You seem to be asking everyone but Israel to share responsibility.

I don't know where you get that idea. I'm just being realistic.

You seem top be very worried about what Israel are doing, but not so bothered about what Hamas have done and will do.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Dec 23 12.22pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't know where you get that idea. I'm just being realistic.

You seem top be very worried about what Israel are doing, but not so bothered about what Hamas have done and will do.

Probably because the IDF have killed tens of thousands and Hamas have killed a couple of hundred.

I find the killing of innocents on either side abhorrent’.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 04 Dec 23 12.31pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

And yet the ratio of civilians to military deaths remains where it is.

At least they dropped a few leaflets before they razed another town - that makes it perfectly ok.

No reliance can be put on the figures supplied by the terrorists, Hamas. Whatever the true numbers are, how many are Hamas terrorist rather than civilians.

My post was in response to your claiming that Israel deliberately carried out mass killings of civilians. Israel do attempt to limit civilian casualties.

 

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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Probably because the IDF have killed tens of thousands and Hamas have killed a couple of hundred.

I find the killing of innocents on either side abhorrent’.

Hamas killed at least 1,200, not 'a couple of hundred', in their October attack and injured and traumatised others. Hamas deliberately targeted the most vulnerable, babies, children, pregnant women, old people. They killed, tortured and raped with as much cruelty as they could. They took hostages of young children and old people. They paraded naked corpses through their streets while the Palestinian civilians spat on the bodies and cheered. They are beneath contempt - yet you support them.

 

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