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cryrst The garden of England 16 Sep 21 6.04am
Originally posted by BlueJay The way it appears its being implemented certainly isn't how I would approach it. Families will have to deal with the realities of the situation; yes I can imagine in some cases it will cause problems. The government appear happy to create that conundrum for people. Edited by BlueJay (16 Sep 2021 12.15am) I thought hmg treated adults like adults. Allowing people to make decisions. Don't you remember during lockdown most rules were advisable, make our own decisions on what's best and safest for us. A few rules were mandatory but they were for whom was determined vulnerable. In the HOC labour were confused and wanted a handbook with 1000s of explanations about the said rules. Now what you are saying is that hmg should force the jab on kids, and not let the family and said kid discuss and make their decision.
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The garden of England 16 Sep 21 6.04am

Originally posted by BlueJay

The way it appears its being implemented certainly isn't how I would approach it. Families will have to deal with the realities of the situation; yes I can imagine in some cases it will cause problems. The government appear happy to create that conundrum for people.

Edited by BlueJay (16 Sep 2021 12.15am)

I thought hmg treated adults like adults.
Allowing people to make decisions. Don't you remember during lockdown most rules were advisable, make our own decisions on what's best and safest for us. A few rules were mandatory but they were for whom was determined vulnerable. In the HOC labour were confused and wanted a handbook with 1000s of explanations about the said rules. Now what you are saying is that hmg should force the jab on kids, and not let the family and said kid discuss and make their decision.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Sep 21 9.31am
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 The vaccine is not safe. How many more times? Yawn Well within acceptable margins, side effects well documented and clearly detailed. And what vaccine, specifically? One of them? All of them? Just the mRNAs? The decades old delivery method AZ? All vaccines, ever? I assume you have not taken it and I do hope natural selection doesn’t tap its sickle on your shoulder before this all fizzles out. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 16 Sep 21 9.31am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

The vaccine is not safe.

How many more times?

Yawn

Well within acceptable margins, side effects well documented and clearly detailed. And what vaccine, specifically? One of them? All of them? Just the mRNAs? The decades old delivery method AZ? All vaccines, ever? I assume you have not taken it and I do hope natural selection doesn’t tap its sickle on your shoulder before this all fizzles out.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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BlueJay UK 16 Sep 21 10.08am
Originally posted by cryrst I thought hmg treated adults like adults. Allowing people to make decisions. Don't you remember during lockdown most rules were advisable, make our own decisions on what's best and safest for us. A few rules were mandatory but they were for whom was determined vulnerable. In the HOC labour were confused and wanted a handbook with 1000s of explanations about the said rules. Now what you are saying is that hmg should force the jab on kids, and not let the family and said kid discuss and make their decision. Hopefully you mean what 'they' (as in the government) are saying, because I've made it clear repeatedly over the last two pages that my belief is that for sake of a reasonable compromise I believe that permission should be attained from 'both' parent and child before going ahead.
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BlueJay

UK 16 Sep 21 10.08am

Originally posted by cryrst

I thought hmg treated adults like adults.
Allowing people to make decisions. Don't you remember during lockdown most rules were advisable, make our own decisions on what's best and safest for us. A few rules were mandatory but they were for whom was determined vulnerable. In the HOC labour were confused and wanted a handbook with 1000s of explanations about the said rules. Now what you are saying is that hmg should force the jab on kids, and not let the family and said kid discuss and make their decision.

Hopefully you mean what 'they' (as in the government) are saying, because I've made it clear repeatedly over the last two pages that my belief is that for sake of a reasonable compromise I believe that permission should be attained from 'both' parent and child before going ahead.

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BlueJay UK 16 Sep 21 10.15am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Yawn Well within acceptable margins, side effects well documented and clearly detailed. And what vaccine, specifically? One of them? All of them? Just the mRNAs? The decades old delivery method AZ? All vaccines, ever? I assume you have not taken it and I do hope natural selection doesn’t tap its sickle on your shoulder before this all fizzles out. On the contrary, Tim actually has been vaccinated by this apparently dangerous jab, while simultaneously implying that he believes it may be responsible for countless deaths via cartoonish stats like "1632 deaths within 3 months of receiving the vaccine.". I wonder how many deaths not having the vaccine is or would be responsible for?
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UK 16 Sep 21 10.15am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Yawn

On the contrary, Tim actually has been vaccinated by this apparently dangerous jab, while simultaneously implying that he believes it may be responsible for countless deaths via cartoonish stats like "1632 deaths within 3 months of receiving the vaccine.". I wonder how many deaths not having the vaccine is or would be responsible for?

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Sep 21 12.07pm
Originally posted by BlueJay On the contrary, Tim actually has been vaccinated by this apparently dangerous jab, while simultaneously implying that he believes it may be responsible for countless deaths via cartoonish stats like "1632 deaths within 3 months of receiving the vaccine.". I wonder how many deaths not having the vaccine is or would be responsible for? Classic. And some people on here wonder why they get continually shot down. I mean, really Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 16 Sep 21 12.07pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Classic. And some people on here wonder why they get continually shot down. I mean, really

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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cryrst The garden of England 16 Sep 21 7.57pm
France has suspended 3000 health workers as they haven't been vaccinated. Lots have now agreed to it. Htf can hmg be canned constantly about how controlling they are when not a soul in the UK has been suspended for no vaccination as far as I know.
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The garden of England 16 Sep 21 7.57pm

France has suspended 3000 health workers as they haven't been vaccinated.
Lots have now agreed to it.
Htf can hmg be canned constantly about how controlling they are when not a soul in the UK has been suspended for no vaccination as far as I know.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 16 Sep 21 9.48pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Yawn Well within acceptable margins, side effects well documented and clearly detailed. And what vaccine, specifically? One of them? All of them? Just the mRNAs? The decades old delivery method AZ? All vaccines, ever? I assume you have not taken it and I do hope natural selection doesn’t tap its sickle on your shoulder before this all fizzles out. Yep, within acceptable margins. All well and good until your 12 year old son/daughter dies from the vaccine. And that is all medicines. Not just vaccines. Which is why they cannot be purchased over the counter without a doctors prescription? If they were as safe as alcohol or cigarettes (both of which are known killers) you could buy your vaccine at Tesco. They are not believed to be safely available to the public. Take medicine by all means. But to say that it is safe to do so is not true. Even paracetamol is controlled at the point of sale. P.S. Any chance you can cut out the condescending tone of your posts, or can't you help being rude? Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Yawn

Yep, within acceptable margins. All well and good until your 12 year old son/daughter dies from the vaccine.

And that is all medicines. Not just vaccines. Which is why they cannot be purchased over the counter without a doctors prescription? If they were as safe as alcohol or cigarettes (both of which are known killers) you could buy your vaccine at Tesco. They are not believed to be safely available to the public.

Take medicine by all means. But to say that it is safe to do so is not true. Even paracetamol is controlled at the point of sale.

P.S. Any chance you can cut out the condescending tone of your posts, or can't you help being rude?

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 16 Sep 21 10.04pm
Originally posted by BlueJay On the contrary, Tim actually has been vaccinated by this apparently dangerous jab, while simultaneously implying that he believes it may be responsible for countless deaths via cartoonish stats like "1632 deaths within 3 months of receiving the vaccine.". I wonder how many deaths not having the vaccine is or would be responsible for? The number quoted is from a report talked about in Parliament. I never implied I believed it. Again, stop making stuff up! I admit that the House of Commons is like a playground, but dismissing it as "cartoonish" or "social media noise" is quite astoundingly flippant. However many deaths that may have been saved, and many have been, is irrelevant. I could give you many examples of how one action saved many but lost some. It was not safe for those that weren't saved. Stop saying that it is safe. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 16 Sep 21 10.04pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

The number quoted is from a report talked about in Parliament. I never implied I believed it. Again, stop making stuff up! I admit that the House of Commons is like a playground, but dismissing it as "cartoonish" or "social media noise" is quite astoundingly flippant. However many deaths that may have been saved, and many have been, is irrelevant. I could give you many examples of how one action saved many but lost some. It was not safe for those that weren't saved.

Stop saying that it is safe.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 16 Sep 21 10.07pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Classic. And some people on here wonder why they get continually shot down. I mean, really Your usual condescension. I don't think I have ever read a post of yours where you are not condescending if you disagree. Is it a sport to you? Or do you really look down on others you disagree with? Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 16 Sep 21 10.07pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Classic. And some people on here wonder why they get continually shot down. I mean, really

Your usual condescension. I don't think I have ever read a post of yours where you are not condescending if you disagree. Is it a sport to you? Or do you really look down on others you disagree with?

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BlueJay UK 17 Sep 21 12.05am
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 The number quoted is from a report talked about in Parliament. I never implied I believed it. Again, stop making stuff up! Stop saying that it is safe. You're the one who specifically went out of your way to highlight this number in order to demonstrate how 'unsafe' the vaccine is. You used it to (in your mind) take me to task about the vaccine. You're as habitually disingenuous as you are delusional. What I think about the vaccine is neither here nor there. You're the one man comedy show aghast about how dangerous you believe it is, while repeatedly being injected with it. Edited by BlueJay (17 Sep 2021 12.09am)
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UK 17 Sep 21 12.05am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

The number quoted is from a report talked about in Parliament. I never implied I believed it. Again, stop making stuff up!

Stop saying that it is safe.

You're the one who specifically went out of your way to highlight this number in order to demonstrate how 'unsafe' the vaccine is. You used it to (in your mind) take me to task about the vaccine. You're as habitually disingenuous as you are delusional.

What I think about the vaccine is neither here nor there. You're the one man comedy show aghast about how dangerous you believe it is, while repeatedly being injected with it.

Edited by BlueJay (17 Sep 2021 12.09am)

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Sep 21 1.05am
Originally posted by BlueJay You're the one who specifically went out of your way to highlight this number in order to demonstrate how 'unsafe' the vaccine is. You used it to (in your mind) take me to task about the vaccine. You're as habitually disingenuous as you are delusional. What I think about the vaccine is neither here nor there. You're the one man comedy show aghast about how dangerous you believe it is, while repeatedly being injected with it. Edited by BlueJay (17 Sep 2021 12.09am) Nope. I didn't. Stop making stuff up. It's getting tedious. Attack me all you wish with "habitually disingenuous as you are delusional" as much as you wish, but unless you can back it up, stop accusing me of things you want me to have said. The vaccine is not safe. I never said it was dangerous. That is your twisting of "not safe". Quite simply red top standards of text. Absolute rubbish. Stick to replying to the written text, or stop replying. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 17 Sep 21 1.05am

Originally posted by BlueJay

You're the one who specifically went out of your way to highlight this number in order to demonstrate how 'unsafe' the vaccine is. You used it to (in your mind) take me to task about the vaccine. You're as habitually disingenuous as you are delusional.

What I think about the vaccine is neither here nor there. You're the one man comedy show aghast about how dangerous you believe it is, while repeatedly being injected with it.

Edited by BlueJay (17 Sep 2021 12.09am)

Nope. I didn't. Stop making stuff up. It's getting tedious.

Attack me all you wish with "habitually disingenuous as you are delusional" as much as you wish, but unless you can back it up, stop accusing me of things you want me to have said.

The vaccine is not safe. I never said it was dangerous. That is your twisting of "not safe". Quite simply red top standards of text. Absolute rubbish. Stick to replying to the written text, or stop replying.

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BlueJay UK 17 Sep 21 8.52am
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 You really don't like the fact that the vaccine isn't as safe as you said it was. Ask yourself, why does it take a question in the HoC to even bring this to the attention of the public? 47 acknowledged deaths caused by the vaccine in the UK. 1632 deaths within 3 months of receiving the vaccine. But you maintain that it is safe. Nope, disingenuous again. You highlighted these numbers as if you believe they directly speak to the vaccines safety. If you didn't you wouldn't have said so and you wouldn't have posted them. Let's get to the only pertinent question in this farce (since the fact that were vaccinated prior had to be extracted from you, we will have to do so again). Do you intend to have the booster of a jab that you repeated deem as unsafe in such a sweeping, OTT and scaremongering way? Enlighten us once again. Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 The vaccine is not safe. I never said it was dangerous. You might want to look up the meaning of the word unsafe. You're the one obsessed with linking it to death on repeat, but not bothering to give a single mention the huge impact on lives saved and hopsitalisations prevented. Edited by BlueJay (17 Sep 2021 6.46pm)
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UK 17 Sep 21 8.52am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

You really don't like the fact that the vaccine isn't as safe as you said it was. Ask yourself, why does it take a question in the HoC to even bring this to the attention of the public?

47 acknowledged deaths caused by the vaccine in the UK.

1632 deaths within 3 months of receiving the vaccine.

But you maintain that it is safe.

Nope, disingenuous again. You highlighted these numbers as if you believe they directly speak to the vaccines safety. If you didn't you wouldn't have said so and you wouldn't have posted them.

Let's get to the only pertinent question in this farce (since the fact that were vaccinated prior had to be extracted from you, we will have to do so again).

Do you intend to have the booster of a jab that you repeated deem as unsafe in such a sweeping, OTT and scaremongering way? Enlighten us once again.

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

The vaccine is not safe. I never said it was dangerous.

You might want to look up the meaning of the word unsafe. You're the one obsessed with linking it to death on repeat, but not bothering to give a single mention the huge impact on lives saved and hopsitalisations prevented.

Edited by BlueJay (17 Sep 2021 6.46pm)

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