Please post more on the political threads. Your wit and intellect will be greatly appreciated.

Waste of time he died 70 years ago, the USSR 30.

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How many of us could cope with that level of debate.

No s***? Well am speechless.

The elegance of prose the command of the English language.

No it’s not. It is the responsibility of the Irish and the British to come up with a solution, just as we did in the ‘90s, with minimal to no assistance from the EU.

The EU is using classic ‘divide and conquer’ tactics with the Irish border and you know it. Lashing out at ‘Brexiteers’ is a reflex from you and your sort.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

To be fair to the EU, in the wider political arena, the Irish border issue is fair game and in Varadkar, they have the perfect stooge.

I am also convinced that May is using the issue to effectively try to lumber us with the softest of Brexits possible. That is the more serious issue here.

There are perfectly viable, tech based systems in place that could be used to solve the border issue. How the German/Swiss border operates in terms of customs is a good starting point and throw in that the common travel area between the Irish Republic and the UK is already established, it is primarily an issue of paper work rather than mile after mile of barbed wire fencing.

But the reality is if Britain catches a Brexit cold from no deal, Ireland is threatened with full blown influenza.

The UK is vastly stronger and with an infrastructure in place that puts whatever the Irish have to shame. Effectively Ireland needs us for a whole variety of reasons if it is to continue its recovery from the 2008 debacle.

And given how Irish politicians stiffed their own population in a way that makes whatever Cromwell and co might have done fade into insignificance then all my sympathies are with the Irish citizens rather than the corrupt fat cats who, in 90% of cases, masquerade as Irish politicians.

If you think UK politics is sleazy, then dig a little bit below the surface of what has gone in Irish politics over the last 25 years and you are in for a real treat. Pure Banana Republic shenanigans.

Also once the UK leave, the EU is going to turn on Ireland for a whole variety of reasons, not least its corporation tax arrangements. The UK has been at the forefront of protecting Dublin from that for decades but now, that particular chicken is coming home to roost.

Varadkar is a vain-glorious man and I am confident that history will not judge him well.

Edited by Matov (12 Jun 2018 2.08pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Exactly and what an attitude.