You (and others) have questioned the idea and notion that 'died within x days' of positive covid test is any useful metric whatsoever. I'm highlighting that now apparently 'dying within three months' of vaccination is somehow vitally important to you. Have the honesty to stick by what you say, rather than act like a 'fine every example of' time suck.

This is an outright lie. You have repeatedly attacked me in a personal way and in fact sought to even with little actual disagreement just to point score. Even your reply to my first message here, which was perfectly sensible was "Well, true to form, you say nothing here". You have actually written several posts about what a nasty and terrible human being you believe I am. All rather perplexing to me. No doubt you've forgotten all about those too.

Where are these posts? Stop making it up.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

It might be a compromise but at such low risk I don't think a 15 year old's opinion is equal to their parent's.

Given the parent is held as responsible for the child in so many other ways by the state I find it quite amazing that it takes this stance.

However, this is me musing and not an attack. I recognise that you are also uncomfortable with how things currently stand.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 11.52pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Oh crikey. I didn't mean to offend you with the word s***.

But this is how you carry on. And do so with other posters you disagree with. Not so much debate the issue, but divert the debate with irrelevance and outrage until you wear them down. If you stopped making stuff up you'd have nothing. That's an attack by the way. Not just me disagreeing with you.

In your first reply to my question, you said that I was incorrect about a statement. Which I wasn't. You then failed to answer my question, merely stating.... well...nothing that I hadn't already asked. Do the children have the final say? You said that they do, and then go on to say that I am inferring that, which is wrong. So which is it? Am I wrong to ask the question. As the Government have given the go ahead, are the kids to have the final say? Or should the parents have their input, as ultimately, they are the ones who live with any adverse consequences.

Or is it unnecessary to vaccinate them in the first place (my preference). Not that my preference matters now. So I really think that this can't happen. To do so would mean breaking families. Literally.

If there is a disagreement who has the say so? Try having an opinion. Just this once.

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (15 Sep 2021 12.11am)

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Thank you. My view is the same about not vaccinating the child if the parent disagrees. The problem is, because the government has stated that they will "assess" whether a child is capable of making an informed and rational choice. And that will go against the wishes of some parents. Hence it is wrong.

Nobody ever thought (I hope) that children would be vaccinated against their will.

ps I do like your take on "relentless and wild insults". Never had you down as a 'flake.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Putin in self-isolation due to COVID cases in inner circle - [Link]

Sounds painful!