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 steeleye20  Croydon 26 May 22 10.21pm |
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It doesn't take long to unravel. Sunaks windfall tax will actually benefit oil and gas companies. Shell for example can practically avoid the tax by re-investing, that means more fossil fuels. There is nothing green about it and it further increases doubts about net zero. The UKs energy plan is hopeless and this does nothing to rectify it.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 26 May 22 11.10pm |
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Perhaps the ideologues on here will decline the payments from yesterday's announcement. However it was arrived at, it is helping with energy bills. Never seen so many noses cut off to spite faces. The Labour plan was a simple tax with no investment incentives.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 26 May 22 11.14pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It doesn't take long to unravel. Sunaks windfall tax will actually benefit oil and gas companies. Shell for example can practically avoid the tax by re-investing, that means more fossil fuels. There is nothing green about it and it further increases doubts about net zero. The UKs energy plan is hopeless and this does nothing to rectify it.
It would follow that you think it is reasonable to have energy bills hiked up by 20/25% in green levies/taxes in the current situation of spiralling prices . If you really think that the UK has any influence on emissions by it's policies and actions then I would disagree. China , India and the US will not be influenced by what action the UK takes. UK emissions are falling, global emissions are rising. Edited by HKOwen (26 May 2022 11.15pm)
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cryrst  The garden of England 27 May 22 6.18am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It doesn't take long to unravel. Sunaks windfall tax will actually benefit oil and gas companies. Shell for example can practically avoid the tax by re-investing, that means more fossil fuels. There is nothing green about it and it further increases doubts about net zero. The UKs energy plan is hopeless and this does nothing to rectify it. The worlds energy/environmental plan is hopeless. If it meant sooooo much to go green it would be done for free by every government. Follow the money
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 May 22 2.06pm |
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Lib Dem Leader is suggesting an electoral pact with Labour at the next GE. I don't have a problem with that as long as they spell it out to the voters before hand. The last time they did this they betrayed their core vote by abounding the abolition of tuition fees after getting the votes. Coalitions or pacts are fine as long as the voters know what to expect.
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 georgenorman 28 May 22 4.20pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Lib Dem Leader is suggesting an electoral pact with Labour at the next GE. I don't have a problem with that as long as they spell it out to the voters before hand. The last time they did this they betrayed their core vote by abounding the abolition of tuition fees after getting the votes. Coalitions or pacts are fine as long as the voters know what to expect. We know what to expect allright - even more Woke than Labour on its own.
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| W12 28 May 22 4.28pm | |
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Unfortunately most left wing people (not all) cannot make the connection between the woke agenda and why the elite are pushing it so hard to the point of tyranny. There are left wing voices like Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand and to a certain extent Joe Rogan that are starting to though.
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| georgenorman 28 May 22 4.31pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Unfortunately most left wing people (not all) cannot make the connection between the woke agenda and why the elite are pushing it so hard to the point of tyranny. There are left wing voices like Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand and to a certain extent Joe Rogan that are starting to though. It's one of the reasons Labour will struggle to win a general election, even against the current clown-car Tories.
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| W12 28 May 22 4.57pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It's one of the reasons Labour will struggle to win a general election, even against the current clown-car Tories. There is literally nobody to vote for that would act in the interests of the average person. That’s true across Europe and the anglosphere. At the same time most of our “leaders” are unpopular to the point that they are often jeered or booed in public and have to be constantly shielded by highly armed police units. Edited by W12 (28 May 2022 5.33pm)
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| georgenorman 28 May 22 5.29pm |
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Originally posted by W12
There is literally nobody to vote that would act in the interests of the average person. That’s trues across Europe and the anglosphere. At the same time most of our “leaders” are unpopular to the point that they are often jeered or booed in public and have to be constantly shielded by highly armed police units. Try the SDP [Link] or, is there a I Love Putin and his Haircut Party?
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| W12 28 May 22 5.33pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Try the SDP [Link] or, is there a I Love Putin and his Haircut Party? I know and like the SDP but I haven’t seen a candidate in any election I’ve voted in so far. I can ignore the Putin stuff, I’m sure you’ll work it out. At least I hope so.
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| georgenorman 28 May 22 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by W12
I know and like the SDP but I haven’t seen a candidate in any election I’ve voted in so far. I can ignore the Putin stuff, I’m sure you’ll work it out. At least I hope so. I tiny glimmer of hope for you yet then.
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