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BlueJay UK 21 Aug 21 1.48am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Richard Fairbrass can make decisions about what jabs he puts in his arms. Honestly those thinking they are making a point about catching a virus with a 99 percent survival rate when most of the vulnerable are already jabbed just shows delusion in my view.. I decided not to have the jabs and I also contacted this virus. I was ill for a bit and then recovered, pretty much like most and no different to most...no drama and my risk assessment. If I was in regular contact with elderly people I might reconsider. Otherwise what people like Richard and I do is our business. The over reactions on this are so high into the atmosphere ....I would say that those criticizing this guy want to justify their own heighted risk assessment of this virus. I have no issues and no criticism for those that choose to have the jab because each individual has the right to assess their own health vulnerability. However for those that want to criticise people like Richard I'd say they have a faulty risk assessment of the statistics for those in reasonable health under a certain age and a rather more willing nature to take government messaging at face value than I certainly have. Just like many of them will probably cheer on a vaccine passport. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 1.31am) Nowhere did I say that it wasn't his decision or make a demand that he gets vaccinated. I pointed out that as a prominent anti vaxer who routinely talks down the seriousness of the virus, it's ironic that he become so ill with it that he had to be hospitalised. He very likely could've avoided that (and taking up a hospital bed), and his politics met with his health in a rather dicey way. While his wider view on the vaccine is fair enough, for his own personal health it looks to have been the wrong decision. Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 1.50am)
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UK 21 Aug 21 1.48am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Richard Fairbrass can make decisions about what jabs he puts in his arms. Honestly those thinking they are making a point about catching a virus with a 99 percent survival rate when most of the vulnerable are already jabbed just shows delusion in my view..

I decided not to have the jabs and I also contacted this virus. I was ill for a bit and then recovered, pretty much like most and no different to most...no drama and my risk assessment. If I was in regular contact with elderly people I might reconsider. Otherwise what people like Richard and I do is our business.

The over reactions on this are so high into the atmosphere ....I would say that those criticizing this guy want to justify their own heighted risk assessment of this virus.

I have no issues and no criticism for those that choose to have the jab because each individual has the right to assess their own health vulnerability.

However for those that want to criticise people like Richard I'd say they have a faulty risk assessment of the statistics for those in reasonable health under a certain age and a rather more willing nature to take government messaging at face value than I certainly have.

Just like many of them will probably cheer on a vaccine passport.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 1.31am)

Nowhere did I say that it wasn't his decision or make a demand that he gets vaccinated. I pointed out that as a prominent anti vaxer who routinely talks down the seriousness of the virus, it's ironic that he become so ill with it that he had to be hospitalised. He very likely could've avoided that (and taking up a hospital bed), and his politics met with his health in a rather dicey way. While his wider view on the vaccine is fair enough, for his own personal health it looks to have been the wrong decision.

Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 1.50am)

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BlueJay UK 21 Aug 21 1.50am
Originally posted by DanH Love that you think that being on the side of Right Said Fred rather than scientists is the right side to be on any medical position. I'm too sexy for my jab, to sexy for my jab, jabs, going to leave me. Deeply dippy 'bout the jab ya got. Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 1.55am)
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UK 21 Aug 21 1.50am

Originally posted by DanH

Love that you think that being on the side of Right Said Fred rather than scientists is the right side to be on any medical position.

I'm too sexy for my jab, to sexy for my jab, jabs, going to leave me.

Deeply dippy 'bout the jab ya got.

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Stirlingsays 21 Aug 21 1.57am
Originally posted by cryrst My sister is a nurse and lives in South Australia; been jabbed, and said the government are a disgrace. Fear mongering about AZ and blood clots so under 60s have Pfizer. Problem is people are now s*e scared about the vaccine, period. Just over 20% took the offer. They will never be out of lockdown at this rate.** No deaths in Sweden over the last week. Anyway lockdowns were always over reactions. After the first one this should have been realised. When you even look at what effects even guidelines had economic activity was still significantly hit. It's one of the partial myths. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Aug 21 1.57am

Originally posted by cryrst

My sister is a nurse and lives in South Australia; been jabbed, and said the government are a disgrace. Fear mongering about AZ and blood clots so under 60s have Pfizer. Problem is people are now s***e scared about the vaccine, period. Just over 20% took the offer.
They will never be out of lockdown at this rate.

No deaths in Sweden over the last week.

Anyway lockdowns were always over reactions. After the first one this should have been realised. When you even look at what effects even guidelines had economic activity was still significantly hit.

It's one of the partial myths.

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Stirlingsays 21 Aug 21 2.04am
Originally posted by BlueJay Nowhere did I say that it wasn't his decision or make a demand that he gets vaccinated. I pointed out that as a prominent anti vaxer who routinely talks down the seriousness of the virus, it's ironic that he become so ill with it that he had to be hospitalised. He very likely could've avoided that (and taking up a hospital bed), and his politics met with his health in a rather dicey way. While his wider view on the vaccine is fair enough, for his own personal health it looks to have been the wrong decision. Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 1.50am) Honestly, who gives a damn what you think about Richard Fairbass's health decisions? He was fine with his choice just like I am with mine. For the vast majority this is little more than feeling rough for a few days. Now, like me, he has better anti bodies than a vaccine. As stated the death risks of this virus are not significant for his age group and like his brother stated, it's a non story. It's the ramping up of this risk that amplifies healthy people's fear. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 2.06am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Aug 21 2.04am

Originally posted by BlueJay

Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 1.50am)

Honestly, who gives a damn what you think about Richard Fairbass's health decisions? He was fine with his choice just like I am with mine. For the vast majority this is little more than feeling rough for a few days. Now, like me, he has better anti bodies than a vaccine.

As stated the death risks of this virus are not significant for his age group and like his brother stated, it's a non story.

It's the ramping up of this risk that amplifies healthy people's fear.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 2.06am)

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BlueJay UK 21 Aug 21 2.20am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Honestly, who gives a damn what you think about Richard Fairbass's health decisions? Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 2.06am) Well you for one. We could say 'who gives a damn what you think..' about almost everything posted here. It's a covid thread, and a covid story. Quote As stated the death risks of this virus are not significant for his age I am well aware of that. He's an individual though not a statistic and clearly it was likely the wrong decision for his personal health. That itself would have been of less note if he wasn't an anti-vaxxer who endlessly talked down the virus, but ended up in hospital due to it. Long term health problems, where hospitalised with covid, are not uncommon. He likely could've easily avoid that possibility as well as hospitalisation. Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 2.55am)
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UK 21 Aug 21 2.20am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Honestly, who gives a damn what you think about Richard Fairbass's health decisions?

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 2.06am)

Well you for one.

We could say 'who gives a damn what you think..' about almost everything posted here. It's a covid thread, and a covid story.

Quote As stated the death risks of this virus are not significant for his age

I am well aware of that. He's an individual though not a statistic and clearly it was likely the wrong decision for his personal health. That itself would have been of less note if he wasn't an anti-vaxxer who endlessly talked down the virus, but ended up in hospital due to it.

Long term health problems, where hospitalised with covid, are not uncommon. He likely could've easily avoid that possibility as well as hospitalisation.

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Stirlingsays 21 Aug 21 3.10am
Originally posted by BlueJay Well you for one. We could say 'who gives a damn what you think..' about almost everything posted here. It's a covid thread, and a covid story. Wrong in my view. I was responding to your post. I'm responding to your sarcasm. I couldn't really careless what Richard Fairbass chooses to do.....I'm responding to those who make an issue of it. Originally posted by BlueJay I am well aware of that. He's an individual though not a statistic and clearly it was likely the wrong decision for his personal health. That itself would have been of less note if he wasn't an anti-vaxxer who endlessly talked down the virus, but ended up in hospital due to it. Long term health problems, where hospitalised with covid, are not uncommon. He likely could've easily avoid that possibility as well as hospitalisation. Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 2.55am) Again, we have to kind of come around to, 'his health assessment choice so what's it got to do with you?'....As you are the one who was taking the p1ss. You want the vaccine, you take it. If another adult, looks at the same data and decides otherwise then fine. Your high minded moralising and sarcasm doesn't make your risk assessment correct. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 3.36am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Aug 21 3.10am

Originally posted by BlueJay

Well you for one.

We could say 'who gives a damn what you think..' about almost everything posted here. It's a covid thread, and a covid story.

Wrong in my view.

I was responding to your post. I'm responding to your sarcasm. I couldn't really careless what Richard Fairbass chooses to do.....I'm responding to those who make an issue of it.

Originally posted by BlueJay

Long term health problems, where hospitalised with covid, are not uncommon. He likely could've easily avoid that possibility as well as hospitalisation.

Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 2.55am)

Again, we have to kind of come around to, 'his health assessment choice so what's it got to do with you?'....As you are the one who was taking the p1ss.

You want the vaccine, you take it. If another adult, looks at the same data and decides otherwise then fine. Your high minded moralising and sarcasm doesn't make your risk assessment correct.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 3.36am)

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BlueJay UK 21 Aug 21 4.17am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Again, we have to kind of come around to, 'his health assessment choice so what's it got to do with you?'....As you are the one who was taking the p1ss. You want the vaccine, you take it. If another adult, looks at the same data and decides otherwise then fine. Your high minded moralising and sarcasm doesn't make your risk assessment correct. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 3.36am) It's ironic that someone who mocked the vaccine and downplayed the virus ended up in hospital with it. That is all I'm saying. While it's nice of you to be so fond of Richard I'm sure he doesn't need you creating a one man fanclub for him based on me simply suggesting that while it's fair to advocate choice, his personal choice to not get vaccinated wound up being a bad bet unless he likes hospital food. Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 6.41am)
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UK 21 Aug 21 4.17am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Again, we have to kind of come around to, 'his health assessment choice so what's it got to do with you?'....As you are the one who was taking the p1ss.

You want the vaccine, you take it. If another adult, looks at the same data and decides otherwise then fine. Your high minded moralising and sarcasm doesn't make your risk assessment correct.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 3.36am)

It's ironic that someone who mocked the vaccine and downplayed the virus ended up in hospital with it. That is all I'm saying.

While it's nice of you to be so fond of Richard I'm sure he doesn't need you creating a one man fanclub for him based on me simply suggesting that while it's fair to advocate choice, his personal choice to not get vaccinated wound up being a bad bet unless he likes hospital food.

Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 6.41am)

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DanH SW2 21 Aug 21 6.49am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays No deaths in Sweden over the last week. Anyway lockdowns were always over reactions. After the first one this should have been realised. When you even look at what effects even guidelines had economic activity was still significantly hit. It's one of the partial myths. Not sure I’ve ever known someone to be quite so selective with the stats that they use to back up their arguments.
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SW2 21 Aug 21 6.49am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No deaths in Sweden over the last week.

Anyway lockdowns were always over reactions. After the first one this should have been realised. When you even look at what effects even guidelines had economic activity was still significantly hit.

It's one of the partial myths.

Not sure I’ve ever known someone to be quite so selective with the stats that they use to back up their arguments.

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Spiderman Horsham 21 Aug 21 7.17am
Originally posted by DanH Not sure I’ve ever known someone to be quite so selective with the stats that they use to back up their arguments. Really ? How long you been on here
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Horsham 21 Aug 21 7.17am

Originally posted by DanH

Not sure I’ve ever known someone to be quite so selective with the stats that they use to back up their arguments.

Really ? How long you been on here

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Eden Eagle Kent 21 Aug 21 11.39am
Originally posted by BlueJay It's ironic that someone who mocked the vaccine and downplayed the virus ended up in hospital with it. That is all I'm saying. While it's nice of you to be so fond of Richard I'm sure he doesn't need you creating a one man fanclub for him based on me simply suggesting that while it's fair to advocate choice, his personal choice to not get vaccinated wound up being a bad bet unless he likes hospital food. Ok to clarify- Richard’s brother has confirmed that he fell over and hit his head and whilst in hospital for this he was tested and confirmed as positive- he was NOT hospitalised for CV. He is now out of hospital and doing fine. Just more MSM misinformation. Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 6.41am)
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Kent 21 Aug 21 11.39am

Originally posted by BlueJay

It's ironic that someone who mocked the vaccine and downplayed the virus ended up in hospital with it. That is all I'm saying.

Ok to clarify- Richard’s brother has confirmed that he fell over and hit his head and whilst in hospital for this he was tested and confirmed as positive- he was NOT hospitalised for CV.

He is now out of hospital and doing fine.

Just more MSM misinformation.

Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 6.41am)

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Eden Eagle Kent 21 Aug 21 11.40am
Apologies my post confirming that Richard Fairbrass was not hospitalised for CV seems to have merged into BJ,s…
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Apologies my post confirming that Richard Fairbrass was not hospitalised for CV seems to have merged into BJ,s…

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Stirlingsays 21 Aug 21 12.46pm
Originally posted by BlueJay It's ironic that someone who mocked the vaccine and downplayed the virus ended up in hospital with it. That is all I'm saying. While it's nice of you to be so fond of Richard I'm sure he doesn't need you creating a one man fanclub for him based on me simply suggesting that while it's fair to advocate choice, his personal choice to not get vaccinated wound up being a bad bet unless he likes hospital food. Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 6.41am) That's largely fair comment. Personally, while I don't support a default anti vaccine mindset I don't really regard not taking this vaccine as a bad choice in his position. He doesn't want to play into the group think amid suspicions and now he has better anti bodies. I can respect that independence (while reserving my own)....with the vulnerable largely vaccinated it's kind of small fry (though I would have still supported the choice). Perhaps I over stated criticism here. Of course you have a full right to comment and criticise, even mock. I do the same regularly. I suppose I just support his right to do what he wants. And of course I'm biased....'I'm too sexy' and 'Deeply Dippy' were really good songs. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 12.57pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Aug 21 12.46pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

It's ironic that someone who mocked the vaccine and downplayed the virus ended up in hospital with it. That is all I'm saying.

Edited by BlueJay (21 Aug 2021 6.41am)

That's largely fair comment.

Personally, while I don't support a default anti vaccine mindset I don't really regard not taking this vaccine as a bad choice in his position. He doesn't want to play into the group think amid suspicions and now he has better anti bodies. I can respect that independence (while reserving my own)....with the vulnerable largely vaccinated it's kind of small fry (though I would have still supported the choice).

Perhaps I over stated criticism here. Of course you have a full right to comment and criticise, even mock. I do the same regularly. I suppose I just support his right to do what he wants.

And of course I'm biased....'I'm too sexy' and 'Deeply Dippy' were really good songs.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2021 12.57pm)

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