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cryrst Flag The garden of England 13 Aug 21 5.50am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Just injecting the wrong stuff mate, only trump wanted bleach, no biggy.

Trump said hydrochloriquine, which is in the bleach family and was and is used in treatment I beleive.
If a couple of rednecks thought he meant harpic then that really shows the intelligence of the individuals.

 

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Helmet46 Flag Croydon 13 Aug 21 6.44am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ask yourself what age demographic costs states the most with the least return?

Ask yourself which age demographics only increase those state costs the longer they live?

Ask yourself how likely is it that a natural virus would mainly target old people and.....this is the significant smoking gun, not target children or the young and productive.

If you look back at viruses this is highly unusual as the young have immature immune systems that catch pretty much anything going....which is why we have so many vaccinations for the young.

Ask yourself is it crazy to suspect that this virus is engineered as part of research to......at some point remove significant numbers of the unproductive elderly and lower the average age of the productive classes.

I make no claim as to whether it was deliberately released but what I do suggest is that this thought process should be considered far more seriously.

It makes sense from a CCP point of view going forward in terms of their population if they wanted to avoid the economic nightmares the west are sleepwalking into....and thus avoiding the 'global village' approach on incoming mainly male immigration within their own populations that the west have adopted....which would eventually see the discordant societies that would see the Han displaced.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Aug 2021 12.49pm)

I could see the conspiracy if it wasn’t for vaccines. Also I rather suspect that China being the closed country it can be - could - if they so desired, comfortably engineer a program of reducing the number of elderly or costly people in a more silently controlled manner. I say closed as does anyone really believe the Covid numbers from China given what we know about how this virus spreads etc?
As far as immunity is concerned - immune ageing is a thing. The London School of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene have done a study on this. Whilst infants and the elderly are extremely vulnerable to infectious diseases, most infectious diseases are found to be at their lowest severity in school age children. In actual fact the only disease that was found to be more severe in school age children was Dengue. So kids aged 5 and upwards, not getting this severely, has nothing to do with how the virus may be ‘engineered’ and everything to do with the efficacy of their immune system being at peak power, I would suggest. In other words it isn’t that the virus is not ‘targeting’ them, it’s just that their immune system is much more effective.

(Now, my question to this is ‘why aren’t infants getting it, if they’re so vulnerable?’ And that may be where there could be an element of question ………………)

Edited by Helmet46 (13 Aug 2021 10.07am)

 

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Matov Flag 13 Aug 21 8.26am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

(Now, my question to this is ‘why aren’t infants getting it, if they’re so vulnerable?’ And that may be where there could be an element of question ………………)

Edited by Helmet46 (13 Aug 2021 6.46am)

My understanding is a rather laymans one. Essentially the younger you are, as a rule, the quicker your auto-immune system kicks in.

When any virus infects you then your body kicks into search mode to look for any previous antibody response. Once it realises that there is not any, only then does it start manufacturing a new one. But the older you are, and with a history of previous illnesses, the slower your body is to realise that it needs to come up with a brand new anti-body response, and when it does struggles more to do som and thus you are more likely to die.

There was a case early on of a little girl who died of it in Italy I think. A lot was made of it because that was not meant to have happened but when a PM was carried out, they discovered the poor little mite had undiagnosed leukemia which impacts on the white-blood-cell count which in turn is all about your auto-immune system.

My understanding is that how we respond to Covid is all about how quickly our bodies decide to go on the offensive rather than wasting time looking for previous solutions.


 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 13 Aug 21 1.16pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Trump said hydrochloriquine, which is in the bleach family and was and is used in treatment I beleive.
If a couple of rednecks thought he meant harpic then that really shows the intelligence of the individuals.

He actually said disinfectant, but tomato/tomatoe.COYP!

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 13 Aug 21 2.19pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Trump said hydrochloriquine, which is in the bleach family and was and is used in treatment I beleive.
If a couple of rednecks thought he meant harpic then that really shows the intelligence of the individuals.

Whatever he meant, I'm not sure there's any sheen to be put on the fact that he sounded like 'the mad uncle' when saying it . He was winging it to extremes and it must have been embarrassing for a medical professional to sit there not knowing how to react to what he was saying.

On the other side of the coin, I do think people get a bit revisionist about Trump on covid, due to his mask comments. He was, to my mind, always very pro vaccination and nobody ever appears to mention or remember that part!


 

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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 12.44am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I'm not sure if this is accurate, but it's interesting if true.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 12.53am)

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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 12.48am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Whatever he meant, I'm not sure there's any sheen to be put on the fact that he sounded like 'the mad uncle' when saying it . He was winging it to extremes and it must have been embarrassing for a medical professional to sit there not knowing how to react to what he was saying.

On the other side of the coin, I do think people get a bit revisionist about Trump on covid, due to his mask comments. He was, to my mind, always very pro vaccination and nobody ever appears to mention or remember that part!

Yes, but it's not clear how much so to younger working demographics....and I somewhat doubt he's be saying you can't have a job or enter a nightclub like Macron has.

His attitude towards masks never went to anything like the extent of the Democrats though....as did his attitudes towards restricting freedoms.

And it also must be remembered that he was anti lockdowns to anything like the Democrats......which will be remembered as excessive in its implementations.

The damage done is generational.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 12.55am)

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Aug 21 7.27am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Those Germans are an efficient bunch. Managed to save money by injecting saline instead of vaccine in over 8000 pensioners. I think it's called a f*** up. Imagine what would happen over here. It would all be boris's fault no doubt.

Apparently a deliberate act by an “anti-Vaxer “ nurse

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 21 11.44am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

And it also must be remembered that he was anti lockdowns to anything like the Democrats......which will be remembered as excessive in its implementations.


Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 12.55am)

Yes, that's true though at least states to some extent had their own approaches, whereas here whatever edict came down from on high applied to all. Not as though the State based approach to life is universally better (as there are still federal considerations), but it at least it does allow for less of a cookie cutter type life.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 21 11.45am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Apparently a deliberate act by an “anti-Vaxer “ nurse

I can't say it surprises me.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 21 11.48am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes, that's true though at least states to some extent had their own approaches, whereas here whatever edict came down from on high applied to all. Not as though the State based approach to life is universally better (as there are still federal considerations), but it at least it does allow for less of a cookie cutter type life.

I'm of the view that there needs to be much more skepticism and push back over any taking of civil freedoms.

Vaccine passports are a means to many other ends and a conduit to social credit control.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 21 12.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm of the view that there needs to be much more skepticism and push back over any taking of civil freedoms.

Vaccine passports are a means to many other ends and a conduit to social credit control.

It could head that way if people are not careful or do not see measures as temporary. Rowing back what has been put in place may be the next big political movement. The creeping prospect of a 'cashless society' brought on by increased card usage is also something to keep an eye on, as that brings with it lots of potential negatives too.

 

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