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europalace Europe 20 Mar 18 6.45am
Originally posted by .TUX. Just when i thought that you couldn't get any funnier you come up with this gem. Yep, hits a very big nerve with some on here I see by the predicted responses of derisive denial.
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Europe 20 Mar 18 6.45am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Just when i thought that you couldn't get any funnier you come up with this gem.

Yep, hits a very big nerve with some on here I see by the predicted responses of derisive denial.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 20 Mar 18 11.33am
Originally posted by europalace er, to stay or leave the EU once ALL of the details of any deal for trade/immigration/citizenship/ Northern Ireland is actually known and agreed. That will be towards the end of 2020. That is the only time a referendum should take place, when you know what's on the table that you're voting for. In 2020 we will have left. So surely the referendum would have to be on applying to rejoin the EU. Which would have no chance of winning, as the EU wants new joiners to join the Eurozone as well. Only way this would work is by pushing back Brexit day from 29 March 2019. That also seems unlikely.
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Originally posted by europalace

er, to stay or leave the EU once ALL of the details of any deal for trade/immigration/citizenship/ Northern Ireland is actually known and agreed. That will be towards the end of 2020. That is the only time a referendum should take place, when you know what's on the table that you're voting for.

In 2020 we will have left. So surely the referendum would have to be on applying to rejoin the EU. Which would have no chance of winning, as the EU wants new joiners to join the Eurozone as well.

Only way this would work is by pushing back Brexit day from 29 March 2019. That also seems unlikely.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 20 Mar 18 11.36am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You just don't get it dear boy do you? Remoaners might as well talk to themselves for all it matters. Leaving was voted for in this country with all the economic fear mongering in full voice. I even had a leaflet delivered through my door from the government pushing the remain message complete with lies about economic disaster from the treasury. Get it straight cloth ears. A majority of us don't like the EU.....even a percent who were frightened into voting remain resent it. We are leaving because we don't want immigration from the EU and control from its politicians and undemocratic commission. That isn't going to change. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2018 3.38am) Immigration numbers won't change once we've left, they might just come from outside the EU (Africa, Asia etc). In terms of control, we won't be getting much of that back either. The government seems to be keen to leave plenty of it vested in the EU (which we will have no say on) or give it away to US etc in return for questionable trade deals, or give it directly to whitehall departments and not accountable to parliament.
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Sydenham 20 Mar 18 11.36am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You just don't get it dear boy do you?

Remoaners might as well talk to themselves for all it matters. Leaving was voted for in this country with all the economic fear mongering in full voice.

I even had a leaflet delivered through my door from the government pushing the remain message complete with lies about economic disaster from the treasury.

Get it straight cloth ears.

A majority of us don't like the EU.....even a percent who were frightened into voting remain resent it.

We are leaving because we don't want immigration from the EU and control from its politicians and undemocratic commission.

That isn't going to change.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2018 3.38am)

Immigration numbers won't change once we've left, they might just come from outside the EU (Africa, Asia etc).

In terms of control, we won't be getting much of that back either. The government seems to be keen to leave plenty of it vested in the EU (which we will have no say on) or give it away to US etc in return for questionable trade deals, or give it directly to whitehall departments and not accountable to parliament.

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.TUX. 20 Mar 18 12.09pm
Originally posted by europalace Yep, hits a very big nerve with some on here I see by the predicted responses of derisive denial. I doubt that you've hit a little nerve let alone a big one. It's all in your head. Buy Litecoin.
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20 Mar 18 12.09pm

Originally posted by europalace

Yep, hits a very big nerve with some on here I see by the predicted responses of derisive denial.

I doubt that you've hit a little nerve let alone a big one.
It's all in your head.

Buy Litecoin.

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Badger11 Beckenham 20 Mar 18 12.32pm
Not entirely happy about the transition deal I think we have given away too much. That said if this means we are out at the end of it I can live with it. The key negotiation is ahead of us, what will the UK - EU look like post Brexit. That is when I will make my final judgement on May and Davis. One more point
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Not entirely happy about the transition deal I think we have given away too much. That said if this means we are out at the end of it I can live with it.

The key negotiation is ahead of us, what will the UK - EU look like post Brexit. That is when I will make my final judgement on May and Davis.

One more point

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chris123 hove actually 20 Mar 18 1.30pm
Originally posted by pefwin Busted flush for years, and kept rather quiet. Isn't the same with some French banks? You wonder how they ever got through the EU stress testing. It all depends on how demanding the stress test is. A while ago our banks were stress tested by the BoE and the only scenario was a fall in the property market from memory.
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hove actually 20 Mar 18 1.30pm

Originally posted by pefwin

Busted flush for years, and kept rather quiet. Isn't the same with some French banks?

You wonder how they ever got through the EU stress testing.

It all depends on how demanding the stress test is. A while ago our banks were stress tested by the BoE and the only scenario was a fall in the property market from memory.

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chris123 hove actually 20 Mar 18 1.33pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt She’s toast after this. Maybe - but not a great time to be leading the Tories in my view.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

She’s toast after this.

Maybe - but not a great time to be leading the Tories in my view.

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Lyons550 Shirley 20 Mar 18 2.50pm
Originally posted by europalace Well, at the moment you might be 'leaving' but the EU has called all of the shots during the so called 'negotiations'. So, old boy, the worst of both worlds for you is on track. Regarding those that don't 'like' the EU, they've never understood the very basics of the EU, a very typical fear of change even if when it's for the better. Even I didn't predict the number of u-turns that have been made so far and remember, many, many more still to be made during the next 18 months. Still, I'm impressed with the brave face you and your ilk are putting on despite many of the 'brexit' demands being pushed into the gutter by the EU. How long can you keep that face before it cracks? Edited by europalace (20 Mar 2018 4.56am) I really dont understand your issue with it all if you're 'happy'? seems to be a lttle bizarre to keep bleating on about something that seemingly doesnt affect your happiness? The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Originally posted by europalace

Well, at the moment you might be 'leaving' but the EU has called all of the shots during the so called 'negotiations'. So, old boy, the worst of both worlds for you is on track.

Regarding those that don't 'like' the EU, they've never understood the very basics of the EU, a very typical fear of change even if when it's for the better.

Even I didn't predict the number of u-turns that have been made so far and remember, many, many more still to be made during the next 18 months. Still, I'm impressed with the brave face you and your ilk are putting on despite many of the 'brexit' demands being pushed into the gutter by the EU. How long can you keep that face before it cracks?

Edited by europalace (20 Mar 2018 4.56am)

I really dont understand your issue with it all if you're 'happy'? seems to be a lttle bizarre to keep bleating on about something that seemingly doesnt affect your happiness?

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crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 20 Mar 18 2.53pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You just don't get it dear boy do you? Remoaners might as well talk to themselves for all it matters. Leaving was voted for in this country with all the economic fear mongering in full voice. I even had a leaflet delivered through my door from the government pushing the remain message complete with lies about economic disaster from the treasury. Get it straight cloth ears. A majority of us don't like the EU.....even a percent who were frightened into voting remain resent it. We are leaving because we don't want immigration from the EU and control from its politicians and undemocratic commission. That isn't going to change. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2018 3.38am) In the year to September 2017 net immigration from the EU to the UK fell to 90,000, while non-EU net immigration to the UK was 205000. This is likely to continue both before and after the UK leaves the EU fully on 1st January 2021. India has claimed as a part of any post EU trade deal with the UK they will require it to be easier for workers from India to move to the UK. The majority of Indians are Hindu or Sikh, but there are 172 million Muslims in India, far more than there are in the EU, so how does that square with your desire to stop Muslim immigration to the UK? I used to be immortal
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The Garden of Earthly Delights 20 Mar 18 2.53pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You just don't get it dear boy do you?

Remoaners might as well talk to themselves for all it matters. Leaving was voted for in this country with all the economic fear mongering in full voice.

I even had a leaflet delivered through my door from the government pushing the remain message complete with lies about economic disaster from the treasury.

Get it straight cloth ears.

A majority of us don't like the EU.....even a percent who were frightened into voting remain resent it.

We are leaving because we don't want immigration from the EU and control from its politicians and undemocratic commission.

That isn't going to change.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2018 3.38am)

In the year to September 2017 net immigration from the EU to the UK fell to 90,000, while non-EU net immigration to the UK was 205000. This is likely to continue both before and after the UK leaves the EU fully on 1st January 2021.
India has claimed as a part of any post EU trade deal with the UK they will require it to be easier for workers from India to move to the UK. The majority of Indians are Hindu or Sikh, but there are 172 million Muslims in India, far more than there are in the EU, so how does that square with your desire to stop Muslim immigration to the UK?

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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Mar 18 6.02pm
Originally posted by crystal balls In the year to September 2017 net immigration from the EU to the UK fell to 90,000, while non-EU net immigration to the UK was 205000. This is likely to continue both before and after the UK leaves the EU fully on 1st January 2021. India has claimed as a part of any post EU trade deal with the UK they will require it to be easier for workers from India to move to the UK. The majority of Indians are Hindu or Sikh, but there are 172 million Muslims in India, far more than there are in the EU, so how does that square with your desire to stop Muslim immigration to the UK? You are right. The people of Britain will have to become more Right wing and vote accordingly to get their voice heard. Does that make you happy? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Mar 2018 6.40pm)
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Originally posted by crystal balls

In the year to September 2017 net immigration from the EU to the UK fell to 90,000, while non-EU net immigration to the UK was 205000. This is likely to continue both before and after the UK leaves the EU fully on 1st January 2021.
India has claimed as a part of any post EU trade deal with the UK they will require it to be easier for workers from India to move to the UK. The majority of Indians are Hindu or Sikh, but there are 172 million Muslims in India, far more than there are in the EU, so how does that square with your desire to stop Muslim immigration to the UK?

You are right. The people of Britain will have to become more Right wing and vote accordingly to get their voice heard. Does that make you happy?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Mar 2018 6.40pm)

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Stirlingsays 20 Mar 18 6.23pm
Originally posted by crystal balls In the year to September 2017 net immigration from the EU to the UK fell to 90,000, while non-EU net immigration to the UK was 205000. This is likely to continue both before and after the UK leaves the EU fully on 1st January 2021. India has claimed as a part of any post EU trade deal with the UK they will require it to be easier for workers from India to move to the UK. The majority of Indians are Hindu or Sikh, but there are 172 million Muslims in India, far more than there are in the EU, so how does that square with your desire to stop Muslim immigration to the UK? It's a small step nothing more. It's about the principle of immigration and a rejection of governmental policy towards it over decades. If we had voted 'remain' people like you would no doubt be saying that it's proof that people didn't feel strongly about this issue. As you say India is a majority Hindu country. Most of our Muslims come from pakistan and Bangladesh. Culturally the typical middle class Indian who could afford to come here doesn't concern me that much. If he fulfills a skills base that our own workers can't and seriously wants to integrate instead of using us as an economic convenience then ok. However, I strongly support the.....much stated principle of getting net immigration down to tens of thousands to a level significantly below the rate of house building in this country. Anyone not supporting that is apart of the problem in my eyes. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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20 Mar 18 6.23pm

Originally posted by crystal balls

In the year to September 2017 net immigration from the EU to the UK fell to 90,000, while non-EU net immigration to the UK was 205000. This is likely to continue both before and after the UK leaves the EU fully on 1st January 2021.
India has claimed as a part of any post EU trade deal with the UK they will require it to be easier for workers from India to move to the UK. The majority of Indians are Hindu or Sikh, but there are 172 million Muslims in India, far more than there are in the EU, so how does that square with your desire to stop Muslim immigration to the UK?

It's a small step nothing more.

It's about the principle of immigration and a rejection of governmental policy towards it over decades. If we had voted 'remain' people like you would no doubt be saying that it's proof that people didn't feel strongly about this issue.

As you say India is a majority Hindu country. Most of our Muslims come from pakistan and Bangladesh.

Culturally the typical middle class Indian who could afford to come here doesn't concern me that much. If he fulfills a skills base that our own workers can't and seriously wants to integrate instead of using us as an economic convenience then ok.

However, I strongly support the.....much stated principle of getting net immigration down to tens of thousands to a level significantly below the rate of house building in this country.

Anyone not supporting that is apart of the problem in my eyes.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Oliver Bodega Bay 20 Mar 18 6.50pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt She’s toast after this. She'll be toast the day after Brexit is completed. Until then any credible potential challengers will be vocal from the sidelines but not wanting the job. I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

She’s toast after this.

She'll be toast the day after Brexit is completed. Until then any credible potential challengers will be vocal from the sidelines but not wanting the job.

I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

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