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 Painter  Croydon 01 May 23 11.45am |
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Originally posted by doombear
Whilst one might see SN AI's recent 'troll' post about sucking up to Parish annoying (which is probably what it's aimed to achieve), he has at least put 3 other names of managers with PL experience into the debate. One might add to those of Rodgers, Cooper and Benitez, the names of: I'm inclined to dispense with Lampard, Gerrard and Pardew. I'm not over-enamoured with the idea of Espirito Santo or, despite his short successful stint with us way back, Bruce. Of managers currently in PL jobs two may not be with their current clubs next season: Of the above I wouldn't say 'no' to Rodgers or Moyes. I find Cooper too inexperienced at this level and in any event I expect he'll stay at Forest either to build on survival in the PL or get that back up at the first attempt. Hassenhutl seems OK but tends to be overly miserable for my liking. We're not ready for Potterball - our flair players need greater freedom. As for Benitez, he's a big club man and we're too small for him. Finally, I can't see Big Sam accepting the financial constraints that are likely to be imposed. Hopefully this post will get us back on track to look at genuine alternatives to Hodgson for next season. None of the above failures. I cant see Roy being interested in a full season slog, this 10 game cameo obviously suited him. I would go for Ange Postecoglou.
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 01 May 23 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
None of the above failures. I cant see Roy being interested in a full season slog, this 10 game cameo obviously suited him. I would go for Ange Postecoglou. Well Painter, that's a new name. Not seen him mentioned before, although he's done a good job at Celtic. Not sure how a brash Aussie would get along with Mr Parish. I agree with you about Doombear's suggestions though.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 01 May 23 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
None of the above failures. I cant see Roy being interested in a full season slog, this 10 game cameo obviously suited him. I would go for Ange Postecoglou.
I've listed only managers who have managed in the PL with varying degrees of success. Neither Rodgers nor Moyes are 'failures' as you call them unless you deem all managers who haven't won the PL 'failures'. Rodgers had successful stints with all three PL clubs he has managed. He seems to go well for 3 seasons before things start going south but then how many PL managers last 3 years these days? He is a proven PL manager. Moyes likewise has had successful stints at both Everton and West Ham and is one of the most experienced PL managers of the current era. One might point to his time at Man U as a failure but then so was Hodgson's at Liverpool but that doesn't make Hodgson a failure.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 May 23 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by doombear
I've listed only managers who have managed in the PL with varying degrees of success. Neither Rodgers nor Moyes are 'failures' as you call them unless you deem all managers who haven't won the PL 'failures'. Rodgers had successful stints with all three PL clubs he has managed. He seems to go well for 3 seasons before things start going south but then how many PL managers last 3 years these days? He is a proven PL manager. Moyes likewise has had successful stints at both Everton and West Ham and is one of the most experienced PL managers of the current era. One might point to his time at Man U as a failure but then so was Hodgson's at Liverpool but that doesn't make Hodgson a failure. In terms of Moyes, his problems at Man Utd have been well documented. He went to Real Sociedad and he was relieved of his duties, then on to Sunderland who were relegated under him. He was appointed at W.Ham until the end of the season after they sacked Bilic and he led them to 13th place in the PL. He was not re-appointed with W.Ham preferring Manuel Pellegrini.Moyes was brought back into the fold when W.Ham sacked Pellegrini halfway through the season with the club in 17th place and they ended the season in 16th position. Edited by Willo (01 May 2023 1.22pm)
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| fish mitten Chelmsford 01 May 23 1.39pm |
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Looking at the dire hoof ball that they were playing. It was hardly the 'West Ham way' A mixture of long punts up the park and long throw ins, a mixture of Crazy Gang Wimbledon and Tony Pulis' Stoke as he has assembled a team of 6 foot musclemen, dependent upon set pieces and long throw ins for goal. Based on Saturday, I wouldn't want him here. Originally posted by Willo
In terms of Moyes, his problems at Man Utd have been well documented. He went to Real Sociedad and he was relieved of his duties, then on to Sunderland who were relegated under him. He was appointed at W.Ham until the end of the season after they sacked Bilic and he led them to 13th place in the PL. He was not re-appointed with W.Ham preferring Manuel Pellegrini.Moyes was brought back into the fold when W.Ham sacked Pellegrini halfway through the season with the club in 17th place and they ended the season in 16th position. Edited by Willo (01 May 2023 1.22pm)
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| SwordFish Peasmarsh,East Sussex 01 May 23 1.46pm |
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There is no one out there that could do a better job and keep these players confident and free flowing like Roy paddy and ray have done , it would be stupid not to give them another year
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| southnorwoodhill 01 May 23 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by SwordFish
There is no one out there that could do a better job and keep these players confident and free flowing like Roy paddy and ray have done , it would be stupid not to give them another year Well that's that settled then. Mr Parish, if you are perusing this thread, get Roy in for a chat and ask him if he'd fancy another year. Another year to plan with Paddy keeping an eye on the cream of the crop from the Academy in preparation for first team call up.
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taylors lovechild  01 May 23 2.30pm |
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Moyes and Rodgers were doing a great job at their respective clubs until this season then the wheels came off. West Ham could still win a European trophy mind. I really rate Rodgers I just think he'd gone stale at Leicester and the lack of investment killed them. That does happen, even with the best managers. I don't think he'd come to us though. There isn't really room for us to grow much unless we suddenly receive an unexpected investment boost so for me it's really only two things. 1. Can they keep us in the PL. Roy ticks the first box for me. I still have reservations about the second. Given Parish's recent comments about relegation I can see why his focus would be primarily on point 1. As others have said, 38 PL games + cup games is a big difference from a 10 game cameo. I still have big doubts as to whether he has the energy for a 40+ game season.
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| Davepalace707 Northumberland 01 May 23 6.00pm |
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Originally posted by SwordFish
There is no one out there that could do a better job and keep these players confident and free flowing like Roy paddy and ray have done , it would be stupid not to give them another year In that case might as well put this thread on hold til we know whether Roy has been offered the job for next season & wants it.
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| SarfNorwoodAl South Norwood 01 May 23 6.59pm |
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Thank you Swordfish I will do my best to provide content that you enjoy reading. All the best Al.
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waterfordpal  01 May 23 10.30pm |
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If Roy decides he is fit enough we have to trust him. If peoples’s only reservation against him is his age then that is ageism just ask Trump, Biden, the Pope, King Charles, the Dali lami, old mam Milner, etc etc. In Roy we trust.
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| babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 02 May 23 7.09am |
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If he continues getting these kind of performances I dont see how Parish can justify replacing him.
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