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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 28 Apr 19 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Financially I think we have hit a glass ceiling unless we cash in on Wilf or AWB. The wage bill needs addressing as well so it wouldn't surprise me to see Benteke and Mamadou Sakho moving on. Even then I'm not expecting major spending in the summer.


Will we be able to pick up the pieces if he goes?

 


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dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 28 Apr 19 9.59pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Precisely.

And who picks them?

 


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dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 28 Apr 19 10.15pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i think realistically now with the financial backing wolves & everton have its 9th place tops for anybody else! you could argue maybe 10th as west ham probably fall into the wolves & everton bracket.

you can bet your bottom dollar wolves & everton will spend again this summer. i cant see us spending more than £10m net this summer, personally i have no issue with that as we dont really need anybody

For starters, how about a Centre Forward?

 


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ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 28 Apr 19 10.16pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

the general criticism of Hodgson is unfair - we lack creativity in midfield and readjusting to the loss of cabaye and rlc took time - I'm no schlupp fan but playing him as inside left with one of jimmymac, meyer or kouyate on the right was the key tactical switch which got us a great run of form and a comfy mid table position - the manager has to make the team close knit and hard to beat, we play some nice possession football at times but we don't have the overall quality to dominate possession regularly in the prem, despite talk of our 'good' players we are where we should be, Roy has NOT caused us to underachieve - to be fair to the more negative of you looking at where Watford are shows we can raise our expectations, I think selling Wilf and getting a grealish type link man and youngsters like che adam and lookman in could lead to us integrating creativity into the set-up rather than relying on Wilf, and I'd be confident Roy would set them up in a very effective way.

 

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davehuggins Flag 28 Apr 19 10.29pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

RH has done a fantastic job, we were the first side in the lower regions to be safe. Sort the home form out and we will be in for a good season 19/20. I think we as fans sometimes just expect far too much with what we have available. What is a concern for me is what is happening in the background, stadium improvements and transfer funds for example.
I assume the rumours are correct that the Americans want out and it would seem to me if so we need investment and quick.

 

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NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 28 Apr 19 10.32pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Will we be able to pick up the pieces if he goes?

I am worried about AWB going. As we have expected Zaha to go for a while his leaving would be somewhat expected. As such, if we got a good fee I think the club would cope.

If we lost AWB I think that would send a really bad message to potential recruits about our longer terms plans. Especially as we need to bring the age of the squad down too.

 


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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 28 Apr 19 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

And who picks them?

Point being we’re not exactly flush with attacking quality or flair.
If you’re talking about who elected to buy them then we know Roy didn’t sign Benteke and my hunch is that Kouyate, Meyer and Ayew probably weren’t Roy’s choice. Sorloth his fault by all accounts.

He could have picked Bats but after last week and with him not being our player he would have been battered.

So where are all these exciting attacking players that should be cutting through our opponents at home ? According to many that player was going to be Max Meyer. What a load bollocks that’s turned out to be. Kouyate a decent grafter but no good when he’s asked the question in the final third. Townsend rightfully dropped because his home form has been dreadful. PVA can’t cross past the first defender or pulls the ball back too far.

Bakery Sako maybe could have been worth a punt for ten minutes but would have been no more than a punt after his hugely prolific time with West Brom earlier in the season.

As others have suggested Benteke looks finished and the reasoning behind playing him can only be to see if he can nick a goal or two and invite a bid or provide an aerial outlet when the opposition inevitably press our (currently) very average centre backs and midfield.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (28 Apr 2019 10.49pm)

 

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blackheatheagle Flag Beckenham 28 Apr 19 11.12pm Send a Private Message to blackheatheagle Add blackheatheagle as a friend

This depends on how we approach to the situation. Overall, Palace did a good job this year considering the facts that there was no significant addition in summer and until January, there was not striker.

Away performance is brilliant (6th in the league) and team (even there is a horrible home performance) always play structured. Both at home and away team know what they are doing at defense, the issue is that there is nothing offered offense at home I have been to 17 home games this year, only first half against West Ham and 20 minutes against Man UTD, team lost the control of the game. (Not been to Watford game)

Better performance at away can be justified with the fact that there is a potential in the team for counter attack. However, you need more creativity and set plans at home where teams seems to have issues.

However, i don`t think this is directly related with team quality. Only 5 points are gained against top 10 at home. 5 out of 30. If you are not a team who seems to be weakest link at the league (like Huddersfield), there can be no explanation on this. Weird thing is that excluding 2 goals against City & Liverpool which was conceded at last minute while attacking for draw, only UTD game is over 1 margin. However, other pattern is that;

- We do not press. Never, only when we have momentum after scoring (which happens rare) This leaves opponent to settle and control the game and worst thing is this dramatically reduce our change to grab the ball and go ahead like we do at away games which we good at.

Summary of this 10 game is showing too much respect to opponent. Should we be more aggressive, we would probably face 3-4 games where we may lose by 3-4 margin maybe, i don`t know. But i have doubts we would stuck at 5 points. Unfortunately this dull play-style was standard as well against bottom 10 excluding Burnley & Cardiff games.

RH may be thinking that he need more qualified team to release the strings. If that is the case, RH may stay as long as summer goes well. However, if this is RH`s mindset and he thinks this is how it works, then there won`t be any dramatic change in home performance and again relegation danger will depend on away performance.

Edited by blackheatheagle (28 Apr 2019 11.12pm)

 

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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 28 Apr 19 11.17pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

We would easily be ok without AWB. Our defence is reasonably solid. We are also showing we can cope without MS as CB.
That does not mean tho that we shouldn't replace them - but at around 15 mil each.
Zaha is way harder to replace - you can't find players like him anymore unless you enter a bidding war or have excellent scouts - which we do not.
Sell Zaha by all means, but we should have started looking for his replacement weeks ago.

 


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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 29 Apr 19 1.40am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

And who picks them?

Who knows how they're going to perform on the day because too many of them are hugely inconsistent throughout the 90 mins, Evertons team was mainly very consistent wasn't it ..I know they made some sloppy passes too but they were clever enough to organise themselves to get it back without us being able to get at them, if Roy had more consistency with PVA for example he would be able to move forward more often and cause Evertons back four some worrying glances but PVA had a not very consistent game and a lot of our build up play was too soon destroyed, he wasn't alone our midfield apart from Milivojevic was not clever ..McArthur wasn't any where near as bad as Meyer, Kouyate and PVA but lets just say he would never get into the Everton side today.

I know you're suggesting Hodgson could play with other players but because at times the players I've mentioned have been able to be more consistent he doesn't really have a leg to stand on when he looks at the bench and he can only change three, most games he needs at least five solid replacements to make any difference.

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 29 Apr 19 1.49am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

For starters, how about a Centre Forward?

First I'd like to really see Benteke deal with a few quality crosses aimed at him ..preferably near his head, as good as Zaha and Townsend are with doing their stuff when they get it right they are piss poor with providing Benteke what he thrives on and to say he is not up to it is silly becasue he scored a beauty at Arsenal with a great quality ball, we also have Sako.

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 29 Apr 19 2.00am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

We would easily be ok without AWB. Our defence is reasonably solid. We are also showing we can cope without MS as CB.
That does not mean tho that we shouldn't replace them - but at around 15 mil each.
Zaha is way harder to replace - you can't find players like him anymore unless you enter a bidding war or have excellent scouts - which we do not.
Sell Zaha by all means, but we should have started looking for his replacement weeks ago.

Wingers are what we need to feed Benteke, or good attacking backs who can cross as well as Souare could, PVA likes the one two more then crossing but AWB is just good at everything and will get better at another club, Ward is an excellent replacement for him.

We need someone who can get the bloody ball across the box for Benteke to head because for all Zaha's trickery he is s*** with doing that simple thing ..come to think of it what does Zaha actually do for the majority of games?

 

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