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Kermit8 Hevon 01 Aug 14 7.43pm
Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.40pm Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.35pm Matthew - I have one question for you too: Do you want the Palestinians to have their own internationally recognised country one day? And without Israeli interference and tacit dominance via airspace control and water? No. I want them to live in s***e circumstances whereby their human rights are consistently invaded, they are unable to build as a people and have no control over their future. You are pathetic Kermit. Truly pathetic. Thanks for responding. You can edit out the smoke and mirrors rest of your post. You, sir, are a moral coward. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 01 Aug 14 7.43pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.40pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.35pm

Matthew - I have one question for you too: Do you want the Palestinians to have their own internationally recognised country one day? And without Israeli interference and tacit dominance via airspace control and water?

No. I want them to live in s***e circumstances whereby their human rights are consistently invaded, they are unable to build as a people and have no control over their future.

You are pathetic Kermit. Truly pathetic.

Thanks for responding. You can edit out the smoke and mirrors rest of your post.

You, sir, are a moral coward.

Big chest and massive boobs

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matt_himself Matataland 01 Aug 14 7.45pm
Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.43pm Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.40pm Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.35pm Matthew - I have one question for you too: Do you want the Palestinians to have their own internationally recognised country one day? And without Israeli interference and tacit dominance via airspace control and water? No. I want them to live in s***e circumstances whereby their human rights are consistently invaded, they are unable to build as a people and have no control over their future. You are pathetic Kermit. Truly pathetic. Thanks for responding. You can edit out the smoke and mirrors rest of your post. You, sir, are a moral coward. Please expand upon your views. You pathetic, naming calling vacuum. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 01 Aug 14 7.45pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.43pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.40pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.35pm

No. I want them to live in s***e circumstances whereby their human rights are consistently invaded, they are unable to build as a people and have no control over their future.

You are pathetic Kermit. Truly pathetic.

Thanks for responding. You can edit out the smoke and mirrors rest of your post.

You, sir, are a moral coward.

Please expand upon your views. You pathetic, naming calling vacuum.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 01 Aug 14 7.53pm
I am sure Kermit thinks he is c***: [Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 01 Aug 14 7.53pm

I am sure Kermit thinks he is c***:

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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johnfirewall 01 Aug 14 7.56pm
Good bit on Channel 4 news with 2 jews (one pro-Palestine) talking about the rise of anti-semitism and how this has appeared at demonstrations all round Europe. Then their reporter describing rockets he'd just seen fired at Israel and the kidnapped soldier being possibly British. The BBC seem to be swinging the other way ironically. Haven't got time to read / watch all the news outlets. Got a new found respect for people who don't bother!
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01 Aug 14 7.56pm

Good bit on Channel 4 news with 2 jews (one pro-Palestine) talking about the rise of anti-semitism and how this has appeared at demonstrations all round Europe. Then their reporter describing rockets he'd just seen fired at Israel and the kidnapped soldier being possibly British. The BBC seem to be swinging the other way ironically. Haven't got time to read / watch all the news outlets. Got a new found respect for people who don't bother!

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Kermit8 Hevon 01 Aug 14 7.58pm
Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.45pm Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.43pm Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.40pm Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.35pm Matthew - I have one question for you too: Do you want the Palestinians to have their own internationally recognised country one day? And without Israeli interference and tacit dominance via airspace control and water? No. I want them to live in s***e circumstances whereby their human rights are consistently invaded, they are unable to build as a people and have no control over their future. You are pathetic Kermit. Truly pathetic. Thanks for responding. You can edit out the smoke and mirrors rest of your post. You, sir, are a moral coward. Please expand upon your views. You pathetic, naming calling vacuum. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear..... I knew the answer was 'no'. Looks like lots of those ordinary people you champion and care so much about will remain stateless if you had your way. When you admit that freely I will be happy to engage. At least then, it will be an honest and open discussion from both sides. As it stands, it is not. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 01 Aug 14 7.58pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.45pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.43pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.40pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.35pm

No. I want them to live in s***e circumstances whereby their human rights are consistently invaded, they are unable to build as a people and have no control over their future.

You are pathetic Kermit. Truly pathetic.

Thanks for responding. You can edit out the smoke and mirrors rest of your post.

You, sir, are a moral coward.

Please expand upon your views. You pathetic, naming calling vacuum.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.....

I knew the answer was 'no'. Looks like lots of those ordinary people you champion and care so much about will remain stateless if you had your way.

When you admit that freely I will be happy to engage. At least then, it will be an honest and open discussion from both sides. As it stands, it is not.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Stirlingsays 01 Aug 14 8.15pm
Nick once again uses the genocide word. None of his lefty mates pull him up on it.....Instead it's attack Matt time. Using 'genocide' is an abuse of the word and most definitely not what is happening. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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01 Aug 14 8.15pm

Nick once again uses the genocide word.

None of his lefty mates pull him up on it.....Instead it's attack Matt time.

Using 'genocide' is an abuse of the word and most definitely not what is happening.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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matt_himself Matataland 01 Aug 14 8.18pm
Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.58pm Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.45pm Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.43pm Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.40pm Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.35pm Matthew - I have one question for you too: Do you want the Palestinians to have their own internationally recognised country one day? And without Israeli interference and tacit dominance via airspace control and water? No. I want them to live in s***e circumstances whereby their human rights are consistently invaded, they are unable to build as a people and have no control over their future. You are pathetic Kermit. Truly pathetic. Thanks for responding. You can edit out the smoke and mirrors rest of your post. You, sir, are a moral coward. Please expand upon your views. You pathetic, naming calling vacuum. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear..... I knew the answer was 'no'. Looks like lots of those ordinary people you champion and care so much about will remain stateless if you had your way. When you admit that freely I will be happy to engage. At least then, it will be an honest and open discussion from both sides. As it stands, it is not. If this response wasn't so anticipated, it would be funny. You really are pathetic. The fact is anyone who disagrees with you is a nazi. I accept this, despite the fact that I have said on here previously, and a few times, my views about the complex and mutually destructive nature of Middle East politics and I am on the side of the average person going about their life. So, go bake a loaf for the missus and come back some 'hard core' slating of me later. After you have had a sit down piss. Edited by matt_himself (01 Aug 2014 8.19pm) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 01 Aug 14 8.18pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.58pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.45pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.43pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 7.40pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 7.35pm

No. I want them to live in s***e circumstances whereby their human rights are consistently invaded, they are unable to build as a people and have no control over their future.

You are pathetic Kermit. Truly pathetic.

Thanks for responding. You can edit out the smoke and mirrors rest of your post.

You, sir, are a moral coward.

Please expand upon your views. You pathetic, naming calling vacuum.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.....

I knew the answer was 'no'. Looks like lots of those ordinary people you champion and care so much about will remain stateless if you had your way.

When you admit that freely I will be happy to engage. At least then, it will be an honest and open discussion from both sides. As it stands, it is not.

If this response wasn't so anticipated, it would be funny. You really are pathetic.

The fact is anyone who disagrees with you is a nazi.

I accept this, despite the fact that I have said on here previously, and a few times, my views about the complex and mutually destructive nature of Middle East politics and I am on the side of the average person going about their life.

So, go bake a loaf for the missus and come back some 'hard core' slating of me later. After you have had a sit down piss.

Edited by matt_himself (01 Aug 2014 8.19pm)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 01 Aug 14 8.21pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Aug 2014 8.15pm Nick once again uses the genocide word. None of his lefty mates pull him up on it.....Instead it's attack Matt time. Using 'genocide' is an abuse of the word and most definitely not what is happening. Stirling - The bloke don't get it. Let him vent spleen. Edited by matt_himself (01 Aug 2014 8.23pm) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 01 Aug 14 8.21pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Aug 2014 8.15pm

Nick once again uses the genocide word.

None of his lefty mates pull him up on it.....Instead it's attack Matt time.

Using 'genocide' is an abuse of the word and most definitely not what is happening.

Stirling - The bloke don't get it. Let him vent spleen.

Edited by matt_himself (01 Aug 2014 8.23pm)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 01 Aug 14 8.22pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Aug 2014 8.15pm Nick once again uses the genocide word. None of his lefty mates pull him up on it.....Instead it's attack Matt time. Using 'genocide' is an abuse of the word and most definitely not what is happening. Genocide is the systematic destruction of all or part of a racial, ethnic, religious or national group via the Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; or (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. I am not sure that it isn't genocide; it isn't war. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 01 Aug 14 8.22pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Aug 2014 8.15pm

Nick once again uses the genocide word.

None of his lefty mates pull him up on it.....Instead it's attack Matt time.

Using 'genocide' is an abuse of the word and most definitely not what is happening.

Genocide is the systematic destruction of all or part of a racial, ethnic, religious or national group via the Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; or (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

I am not sure that it isn't genocide; it isn't war.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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Oliver Bodega Bay 01 Aug 14 8.24pm
Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 5.56pm Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 5.45pm Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 4.57pm So, have Hamas said today that they will dismantle the tunnel network in order to bring peace? Or are they still using it to prop up their power? They have. Just a few minutes after Netanyahu dismantled the West Bank Wall; ended the seven year blockade of Gaza; promised to rebuild the thousands of homes demolished and allow the people to manage their own water resources and air-space; apologised for killing all those children; took an oath to stop the Israeli version of Liebansraum continuing; passed an act ensuring that Palestinians and Israelis have the same rights; ordered all illegal settlers to leave the land they have stolen so the Palestinian families can return home and agreed to adhere to the 44 UN resolutions so far ignored since 1948. Oh, and because he did all that Hamas are going to be defunct in just over 5 minutes. Their support has suddenly disintegrated. Interesting response from one who implores, normally, debate and discussion between opposing parties yet in this instance seems quote content to allow a government to sit back and watch whilst it's population, quite a few of them strategically placed human shields, die, without any form of compromise being mooted or even vaguely considered. Hamas have a lot of blood on their hands because of their selfish actions and Hamas are not good for the Palestinian people. BTW, this is not a defence of Israel. It is a criticism of the c*s at Hamas who appear to be content to watch their people die rather than compromise. Cut the human shield bulls* its just an excuse for collective punishment being carried by the Israeli government. Interestingly the Israelis where accused of using Palestinian children as human shields by the UN a year ago I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Bodega Bay 01 Aug 14 8.24pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 5.56pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 5.45pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 4.57pm

So, have Hamas said today that they will dismantle the tunnel network in order to bring peace?
Or are they still using it to prop up their power?

They have. Just a few minutes after Netanyahu dismantled the West Bank Wall; ended the seven year blockade of Gaza; promised to rebuild the thousands of homes demolished and allow the people to manage their own water resources and air-space; apologised for killing all those children; took an oath to stop the Israeli version of Liebansraum continuing; passed an act ensuring that Palestinians and Israelis have the same rights; ordered all illegal settlers to leave the land they have stolen so the Palestinian families can return home and agreed to adhere to the 44 UN resolutions so far ignored since 1948.

Oh, and because he did all that Hamas are going to be defunct in just over 5 minutes. Their support has suddenly disintegrated.

Interesting response from one who implores, normally, debate and discussion between opposing parties yet in this instance seems quote content to allow a government to sit back and watch whilst it's population, quite a few of them strategically placed human shields, die, without any form of compromise being mooted or even vaguely considered.

Hamas have a lot of blood on their hands because of their selfish actions and Hamas are not good for the Palestinian people. BTW, this is not a defence of Israel. It is a criticism of the c***s at Hamas who appear to be content to watch their people die rather than compromise.

Cut the human shield bulls*** its just an excuse for collective punishment being carried by the Israeli government. Interestingly the Israelis where accused of using Palestinian children as human shields by the UN a year ago

I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Aug 14 8.25pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Aug 2014 8.15pm Nick once again uses the genocide word. None of his lefty mates pull him up on it.....Instead it's attack Matt time. Using 'genocide' is an abuse of the word and most definitely not what is happening. If you look at the link in that post, you will see it is the title of an article from a jewish newspaper, that was later withdrawn by the paper. That is why the word genocide is used in that case.
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Shizzlehurst 01 Aug 14 8.25pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Aug 2014 8.15pm

Nick once again uses the genocide word.

None of his lefty mates pull him up on it.....Instead it's attack Matt time.

Using 'genocide' is an abuse of the word and most definitely not what is happening.

If you look at the link in that post, you will see it is the title of an article from a jewish newspaper, that was later withdrawn by the paper. That is why the word genocide is used in that case.

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matt_himself Matataland 01 Aug 14 8.27pm
Quote Oliver at 01 Aug 2014 8.24pm Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 5.56pm Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 5.45pm Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 4.57pm So, have Hamas said today that they will dismantle the tunnel network in order to bring peace? Or are they still using it to prop up their power? They have. Just a few minutes after Netanyahu dismantled the West Bank Wall; ended the seven year blockade of Gaza; promised to rebuild the thousands of homes demolished and allow the people to manage their own water resources and air-space; apologised for killing all those children; took an oath to stop the Israeli version of Liebansraum continuing; passed an act ensuring that Palestinians and Israelis have the same rights; ordered all illegal settlers to leave the land they have stolen so the Palestinian families can return home and agreed to adhere to the 44 UN resolutions so far ignored since 1948. Oh, and because he did all that Hamas are going to be defunct in just over 5 minutes. Their support has suddenly disintegrated. Interesting response from one who implores, normally, debate and discussion between opposing parties yet in this instance seems quote content to allow a government to sit back and watch whilst it's population, quite a few of them strategically placed human shields, die, without any form of compromise being mooted or even vaguely considered. Hamas have a lot of blood on their hands because of their selfish actions and Hamas are not good for the Palestinian people. BTW, this is not a defence of Israel. It is a criticism of the c*s at Hamas who appear to be content to watch their people die rather than compromise. Cut the human shield bulls* its just an excuse for collective punishment being carried by the Israeli government. Interestingly the Israelis where accused of using Palestinian children as human shields by the UN a year ago Calm down. Speak slowly. Have another go. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 01 Aug 14 8.27pm

Quote Oliver at 01 Aug 2014 8.24pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 5.56pm

Quote Kermit8 at 01 Aug 2014 5.45pm

Quote matt_himself at 01 Aug 2014 4.57pm

So, have Hamas said today that they will dismantle the tunnel network in order to bring peace?
Or are they still using it to prop up their power?

Oh, and because he did all that Hamas are going to be defunct in just over 5 minutes. Their support has suddenly disintegrated.

Calm down. Speak slowly. Have another go.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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