Perhaps you should invest in a dictionary yourself, look up 'racism' and 'bigotry'.

Then look at yourself in the mirror.

Oooh hurty words!

Whatever you do, don't look up 'fruitcake'.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Voter suppression isn't suppression if the so called 'voter' isn't eligible.

As for who should and shouldn't be eligible, this is for Americans.

Let's just say that I have zero regard for what any anti white leftist thinks about it. I only laugh when they have the cheek to talk about 'racism'....and it's a belly laugh when they mention bigotry as they are perhaps the worst people on earth for that.

But please carry on with your support for hurty words, I could do with some more amusement.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Mar 2021 3.22pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

A small sample size? Or perhaps you only see what you look for.

Anti white media is rife....Only last year the publicly funded BBC produced a programme on 'Whiteness'. Just how out in the open do you want it to be?

I have no real issues with you pointing out hypocrisy.....just as I don't really have an issue with you not noticing anti white media....as it just isn't in your interest to look for it.

And that's not a criticism but just a natural bias, which I no doubt also have.

Well of course he was slanting it, it's an opinion piece not an objective video or court case. However that doesn't make it inaccurate. This 'oh it's cherry picked' argument that some have made doesn't make much sense to me. You could say that of any contention ever....'Oh but you missed this out and it isn't racist'. This could have been done about claims of anti black racism as well.

My answer is that facts don't care about feelings. Is it fair to reveal the statistical reality that lower IQ people commit more violent crime than those with high IQs? Am I 'stereotyping' the low IQ?

No, I think that is over sensitive. Just as being low IQ doesn't mean you are going to be violent it's the same for different groups in relation to crime....it's purely statistical.

Instead of contesting what the stats say it's probably more fruitful to think in terms of what could change them.

I kind of respect for people who attack hypocrisy.....However, let me tell you something from my expereince...it makes no difference as while I can say that facts don't care about your feelings...the reverse is also true...feelings don't care about facts.

But still, where hypocrisy exists, it's better pointed out than just meekly left if only for the record.

As for an evolving opinion since the sixties.....Well, personally I think the ideas back then were far more free and honest than the waffle we get today. Today, what gets called racism can be 'he looked at me funny', where as back then real ideas were being exchanged.

I started out, like most whites, encouraged to be colour blind and to think integration of all humanity was the best thing. Over the last decade, I slowly came to realise how my view was indoctrinated and how more importantly it's wrong.

While it's certainly true that good people will get along and do well regardless and I have no issues with that. I'm now of the view that what is best for all groups is fight against controlled globalism....which in reality a land grab by elites which only continues to worsen as we go on.

Blacks, for example, think that white liberals are on their side....whereas I'm of the view that instead of standing on their own two feet they have been conditioned by them into viewing victimization as a badge of honour.

When you look at who really gains from this it's black elites while the rest of the black population stays where it always was living in relative poverty and high crime. These black elites are themselves still serving their western masters instead of being accountable to their own.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Mar 2021 3.50pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It is an achievement, however under Trump the rollout had just started and had already achieved 1m per day.

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So CNN and Biden team saying there was a non existent plan and they would have to start from scratch was a little unfair. They have been able to build on what was already there and it is certainly an achievement.

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And from the NY times which gives credit to both Presidents

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Edited by Badger11 (27 Mar 2021 4.47pm)

Edited by Badger11 (27 Mar 2021 4.56pm)

One more point

I meant the sample size you produced I wasn't actually inferring there wasn't anymore I do in fact remember you posting the programme on whiteness , which I will also find and watch

It's not a matter of not noticing if its not on the BBC Sports or weather pages or the Daily mail I'm not going to see it.

If you read what I actually wrote I said it could have been slanted another way and yes it could have been done about claims of black anti racism as well, to be honest I listened to Trevor Noah's video and I have the same view on that he slanted it the way he wanted. If they had both given balanced quotes on the incident I could have believed both of them more.

I don't have a problem with statistical data and I haven't actually contested any stats either, I have a problem with using those stats to demonise a whole group on the actions of a sub set of that group. Yes finding solutions is the way forward I agree.

As for your last comments about how you came to your current view point well that's for you and I'm not going to debate that.

This part however I have to be honest I will leave because if I answered it, it would derail the thread further, but just to say I did find it quite funny.