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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 28 Apr 19 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This is true, so instead of getting some width in the team and banging some balls in the box Roy plays MacArthur on the left wing and Wilf though the middle. Roy hasn’t and never will play to Benteke’s strengths and when Wilf is gone it’ll be 4 central midfielders chugging round the pitch, playing the ball sideways, with possibly Andros cutting back onto his strong foot after the oppo have been behind the ball for 20 passes.

I get why Parish will never want a manager keeping us in the prem to leave, and Roy won’t be doing it for very long anyway, but I am concerned we might be on the start of a slide seeing how few goals we score and how Roy is sapping creativity out of the team to the point you expect there not to be any. Roy had better be good with any new players and squad on the training pitch still because right now in real matches we’re very tame apart from some of the individual battles. I wish I could fast forward to the next manager because I’ve come close to not using my ST so many times. It’s lucky we don’t have a 35,000 stadium because we’d have to give away fans half to 3/4 of the Arfur to fill it playing this.

I take your point on some of this and agree that Wilf and Townsend should swap sides and hit the box earlier. But many were banging on about the success of Wilf and CB as a front pair last week, Meyer’s inclusion, and the variation from what Roy had been doing.

CB missed 20 from 23 good chances last season and to be honest there doesnt look to be much creativity amongst this group of players to be sapped with obvious exception of Wilf who Everton singled out as our only real threat and managed to nullify.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Apr 19 12.49pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

IMO it is largely down to the quality of the players we have yes. The style was very different when we had the the likes of RLC and Cabaye to give us options instead of Meyer, Kouyate and Schlupp.

This is true but then Roy will select a load of non creative players and then not even bring any of the attacking new off the bench because it’s usually like for like replacements unless there’s less than 10 minutes left and we’re losing.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Apr 19 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I take your point on some of this and agree that Wilf and Townsend should swap sides and hit the box earlier. But many were banging on about the success of Wilf and CB as a front pair last week, Meyer’s inclusion, and the variation from what Roy had been doing.

CB missed 20 from 23 good chances last season and to be honest there doesnt look to be much creativity amongst this group of players to be sapped with obvious exception of Wilf who Everton singled out as our only real threat and managed to nullify.

You don’t need to be creative to overlap jimmy MacArthur and whip an early cross in but we are lacking creativity through the middle, that is true. So the answer is again to rely on Wilf, but through the middle this time, and fail out on his wing and after the laboured passing across midfield, fail on Andros’s wing as well.

 


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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 28 Apr 19 3.14pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

What, other than the 100m from the yanks and the 150m a year from the tv deal?

Dunno mate, how are Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley scraping by? Do they have better resources then?

have you actually read our latest accounts?

do you realise pretty much every penny of PL income goes on paying wages?

 


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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 28 Apr 19 3.38pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Maybe but I’m filling up my fiesta with super unleaded as I’m expecting better performance and mileage.

You need to have a full service first, the squad needs sorting out doesn't it we all understand that most of all Mr Hodgson, do you seriously consider for one moment that Mr Hodgson is going about his business to piss everyone off on home match days!

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 28 Apr 19 3.58pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

What, other than the 100m from the yanks and the 150m a year from the tv deal?

Dunno mate, how are Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley scraping by? Do they have better resources then?

Burnley have struggled a lot more then us this season and Bournemouth until the 5-0 win at Brighton had dived down the table with a horrendous run with just something like two draws in thirteen games! Watford are the biggest surprise of the season, will they be able to do it again? We are actually all much the same in terms of survival.
Nobody can compete with the outside resources of the top six.

Edited by Tickled pink (28 Apr 2019 4.02pm)

 

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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 28 Apr 19 6.17pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Burnley have struggled a lot more then us this season and Bournemouth until the 5-0 win at Brighton had dived down the table with a horrendous run with just something like two draws in thirteen games! Watford are the biggest surprise of the season, will they be able to do it again? We are actually all much the same in terms of survival.
Nobody can compete with the outside resources of the top six.

Edited by Tickled pink (28 Apr 2019 4.02pm)

i think realistically now with the financial backing wolves & everton have its 9th place tops for anybody else! you could argue maybe 10th as west ham probably fall into the wolves & everton bracket.

you can bet your bottom dollar wolves & everton will spend again this summer. i cant see us spending more than £10m net this summer, personally i have no issue with that as we dont really need anybody

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 28 Apr 19 6.46pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i think realistically now with the financial backing wolves & everton have its 9th place tops for anybody else! you could argue maybe 10th as west ham probably fall into the wolves & everton bracket.

you can bet your bottom dollar wolves & everton will spend again this summer. i cant see us spending more than £10m net this summer, personally i have no issue with that as we dont really need anybody

Financially I think we have hit a glass ceiling unless we cash in on Wilf or AWB. The wage bill needs addressing as well so it wouldn't surprise me to see Benteke and Mamadou Sakho moving on. Even then I'm not expecting major spending in the summer.


 


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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 28 Apr 19 7.34pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i think realistically now with the financial backing wolves & everton have its 9th place tops for anybody else! you could argue maybe 10th as west ham probably fall into the wolves & everton bracket.

you can bet your bottom dollar wolves & everton will spend again this summer. i cant see us spending more than £10m net this summer, personally i have no issue with that as we dont really need anybody

Wolves, Everton, West Ham and maybe Leicester and Newcastle look the best bets for that stage but they will still have to take gambles on new players, everyone else including us have to rely on big huge gambles, only the top six as you know can attract the finished article.
The biggest problem in football is fans forcing issues with managers in stadiums and online ..not to mention the bleeding media!
Our best bet by far is survival at this moment in time and sadly it will upset a fair amount of fans who can't wait won't wait. Hodgson or any manager we have will always have a problem somewhere on the pitch it comes with the territory.
Home form has been an issue for us for some time not just this season and although it looks really bad now the squad on the pitch have had enough opportunities in past games to have won at least three of them quite comfortably, it is really such a fine line between missing silly chances and allowing through mistakes in defence to lose games when we seriously shouldn't and it is a terrible mistake to blame any manager for silly individual cock ups.
Managers should all be given three years before any talk of replacement. Frank de Boer will be thrown at me and I say nobody will and can never know what could have happened had he stayed, it's all crystal balls!

 

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Ghostship Flag Norfolk 28 Apr 19 7.34pm Send a Private Message to Ghostship Add Ghostship as a friend

What I find baffling about Roy when it comes to our home form is that he has been a manager for 40 odd years in god knows how many different countries yet he can’t come up with an alternative plan to help us get wins.

You would have thought a manager with his experience and intellect would be able to come up with a new plan but he just seems happy to drift along which is surprising considering he is a Palace man through and through. To have only scored 14 goals at home all season is disgusting

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 28 Apr 19 8.41pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Ghostship

What I find baffling about Roy when it comes to our home form is that he has been a manager for 40 odd years in god knows how many different countries yet he can’t come up with an alternative plan to help us get wins.

You would have thought a manager with his experience and intellect would be able to come up with a new plan but he just seems happy to drift along which is surprising considering he is a Palace man through and through. To have only scored 14 goals at home all season is disgusting

We should smuggle some football players in and disguise them as PVA, Kouyate, Meyer and Benteke, maybe then we may be able to actually hold onto the ball long enough to get into the oppositions half.

 

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EddieMac Flag 28 Apr 19 8.53pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

No but he has all those attacking options on the bench and instead of something happening out wide we get MacArthur on the left without an option or ability to do anything out there. Not a pass, not an overlap from a full back. Nothing. We’re setup as a table top football game with nobody moving beyond their line on the pitch.

We’re safe and Roy wants to play it safe and keep all the threat on the bench? Really?


Id have to disagree about our attacking options on the bench. Did you see our bench our Saturday?
Roy is going to give Benteke every minute till the end of the season to see if he can find some form (he looks finished in my book).
Bats and Ayew will be gone soon so no point in playing them.

 

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