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matt_himself Matataland 29 Sep 15 8.00am
Quote Kermit8 at 29 Sep 2015 7.40am Aspects of our unhealthy financial wellbeing - tax avoidance, the unregulated rent sector, the rip off costs of privatisation, the punitive lowering of tax credits for working families, the bedroom tax, the sick losing their welfare, etc, - these ways of doing things which, frankly, make us a more fractured ill-at-ease with itself and less compassionate society have their roots in right-wing economic thinking and tacit acceptance of those with similar leanings by repeating the same disproportionate scare story crap - they will go offshore, massive benefit fraud, the left think profit is a crime - year after year in order to protect the status quo. A situation which has a negative impact on so many of the citizens of this country. The right preach patriotism and the people but all they really seem to care about is money and agreeing with those of a likemind. The fact is, there is reality and dreamland. Facing up to reality does make a person less of a human or 'less compassionate', whatever that means as I have known a load of lefties who aren't compassionate, it shows an ability to face up to life and not hide behind unworkable policies, situations or shy away from life although and create a fake reality in high to dwell. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 29 Sep 15 8.00am

Quote Kermit8 at 29 Sep 2015 7.40am

Aspects of our unhealthy financial wellbeing - tax avoidance, the unregulated rent sector, the rip off costs of privatisation, the punitive lowering of tax credits for working families, the bedroom tax, the sick losing their welfare, etc, - these ways of doing things which, frankly, make us a more fractured ill-at-ease with itself and less compassionate society have their roots in right-wing economic thinking and tacit acceptance of those with similar leanings by repeating the same disproportionate scare story crap - they will go offshore, massive benefit fraud, the left think profit is a crime - year after year in order to protect the status quo.

A situation which has a negative impact on so many of the citizens of this country. The right preach patriotism and the people but all they really seem to care about is money and agreeing with those of a likemind.

The fact is, there is reality and dreamland. Facing up to reality does make a person less of a human or 'less compassionate', whatever that means as I have known a load of lefties who aren't compassionate, it shows an ability to face up to life and not hide behind unworkable policies, situations or shy away from life although and create a fake reality in high to dwell.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Sep 15 8.19am
Be interesting if companies left the UK because they'll be made to pay a fair amount of tax. It will create some room for more start ups and small businesses to get going. For instance, how many cafés and coffee shops were priced out by aggressive tactics by Starbucks et al?
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 29 Sep 15 8.19am

Be interesting if companies left the UK because they'll be made to pay a fair amount of tax.

It will create some room for more start ups and small businesses to get going.

For instance, how many cafés and coffee shops were priced out by aggressive tactics by Starbucks et al?

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DanH SW2 29 Sep 15 8.40am
Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f*** can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Top post.
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DanH

SW2 29 Sep 15 8.40am

Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am

Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise:

1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question;
2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him;
3. How the f*** can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking;
4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO;
5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate.

I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair.

I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation.

But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Sep 15 8.51am
Quote DanH at 29 Sep 2015 8.40am Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f* can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Top post. Sycophant. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham**
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Top post.

Sycophant.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Sep 15 12.59pm
Quote nickgusset at 29 Sep 2015 8.19am Be interesting if companies left the UK because they'll be made to pay a fair amount of tax. It will create some room for more start ups and small businesses to get going. For instance, how many cafés and coffee shops were priced out by aggressive tactics by Starbucks et al? That'd be almost all of them, with their low to minimum wages. We often see on here about the 'threat of foreign cultures' on the British way of life, but surely the American franchise Nation of the UK and the proliferation of branded outlets into identikit high streets and shopping centers has effectively had more effect on UK cultural identity, than even migration. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote nickgusset at 29 Sep 2015 8.19am

Be interesting if companies left the UK because they'll be made to pay a fair amount of tax.

It will create some room for more start ups and small businesses to get going.

For instance, how many cafés and coffee shops were priced out by aggressive tactics by Starbucks et al?

That'd be almost all of them, with their low to minimum wages. We often see on here about the 'threat of foreign cultures' on the British way of life, but surely the American franchise Nation of the UK and the proliferation of branded outlets into identikit high streets and shopping centers has effectively had more effect on UK cultural identity, than even migration.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 29 Sep 15 1.21pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f* can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years.** If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known). Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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dannyh

wherever I lay my hat....... 29 Sep 15 1.21pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am

Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise:

But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them.

Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known).

Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Sep 15 1.37pm
Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f* can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known). Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever. Danny, you're probably too young to remember one of Corbyn's illustrious predecessors, Michael Foot, and his shambolic, disgracefully dishevelled appearance at the Cenotaph. Corbyn is Beau Brummel by comparison. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham**
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 29 Sep 15 1.37pm

Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am

Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise:

But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them.

Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known).

Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.

Danny, you're probably too young to remember one of Corbyn's illustrious predecessors, Michael Foot, and his shambolic, disgracefully dishevelled appearance at the Cenotaph. Corbyn is Beau Brummel by comparison.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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chris123 hove actually 29 Sep 15 1.41pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 29 Sep 2015 1.37pm Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f* can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known).** Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever. Danny, you're probably too young to remember one of Corbyn's illustrious predecessors, Michael Foot, and his shambolic, disgracefully dishevelled appearance at the Cenotaph. Corbyn is Beau Brummel by comparison. Pretty wife.
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chris123

hove actually 29 Sep 15 1.41pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 29 Sep 2015 1.37pm

Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am

Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise:

But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them.

Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known).

Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.

Pretty wife.

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DanH SW2 29 Sep 15 1.42pm
Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f* can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known). Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.** What, like Nigel Farage's you mean?
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DanH

SW2 29 Sep 15 1.42pm

Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am

Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise:

But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them.

Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known).

Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.

What, like Nigel Farage's you mean?

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Sep 15 1.47pm
Quote DanH at 29 Sep 2015 1.42pm Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f* can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known). Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever. What, like Nigel Farage's you mean? Farage is different and right. Corbyn is different and wrong. Sort yourself out, love. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham**
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 29 Sep 15 1.47pm

Quote DanH at 29 Sep 2015 1.42pm

Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am

Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise:

But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them.

Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known).

Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.

What, like Nigel Farage's you mean?

Farage is different and right. Corbyn is different and wrong. Sort yourself out, love.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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DanH SW2 29 Sep 15 1.48pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 29 Sep 2015 1.47pm Quote DanH at 29 Sep 2015 1.42pm Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f* can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known). Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.** What, like Nigel Farage's you mean? Farage is different and right. Corbyn is different and wrong. Sort yourself out, love. How foolish of me.
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SW2 29 Sep 15 1.48pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 29 Sep 2015 1.47pm

Quote DanH at 29 Sep 2015 1.42pm

Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am

Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise:

But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them.

Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known).

Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.

What, like Nigel Farage's you mean?

Farage is different and right. Corbyn is different and wrong. Sort yourself out, love.

How foolish of me.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Sep 15 1.54pm
Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise: 1. He uses the left won trick of avoiding answering direct questions by using emotive imagery. For example, when asked about his views on the monarchy, he avoids answering the question and for some reason says words to the effect of 'what is important? The million people going to food banks'. Answer the question; 2. He obviously supports some dubious causes. His answer to the question Marr asked him about the IRA was gutless and demonstrated a lack of desire to answer a serious question put to him; 3. How the f* can you negotiate a political settlement with ISIS? That to me the crux of what his wrong with his politics and views. ISIS willnever negotiate. Barking; 4. Blaming NATO for Putin's invasion of Ukraine is also insane. They aren't a member of NATO and Putins drive to recapture the Soviet Union territories for Russia has nothing to do with NATO; 5. He looks incredibly uneasy being questioned and one can only think that as he has spent his life on the fringes, he has never had to answer any questions except use the rhetoric of the causes he supports. Now he is leader of the opposition he is going to be questioned and needs to understand that dismissing questions and having distain for those asking questions will only isolate him from the electorate. I thought Corbyn was pretty good on the Marr Show. I think he was clear on the monarchy, he doesn't personally want a hereditary monarch as head of state but accepts that the majority do. I don't think he supports the IRA or their use of violence. He does support a united Ireland, something I suspect most people think is inevitable. He specifically said you cannot negotiate with ISIS. He didn't blame NATO for Ukraine, he said the blame should be shared. I don't think he looked uneasy and thought his answers were more straightforward than what we get from Cameron and what we used to get from Blair. I also thought that McDonnell made some good points in his speech. I support a lot of the old left ideas that they represent, including nationalisation of utilities and transport, support of union rights, attacking tax evasions and avoidance, and tax-breaks for the mega-rich (particularly foreign, often corrupt, mega-rich who increasingly own swathes of the country). It is the new left aspects that put me off where they put the interests of various minorities ahead of ordinary British working people. Also their refusal to even consider reform of the welfare and NHS systems. Unilateral disarmament and neglect of the armed forces would also be extremely dangerous given the world situation. But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years.** If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them. Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known). Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever. Well yeah, kind of, in a democratic country that gives credence to free speech - Different is the very life blood of debate and democratic principles. I wouldn't really describe any party as good or bad, because the end result is largely judged subjectively by the individuals relationship to events. The reality generally tends that even broken clocks tell the right time twice a day, and the mistake of many in politics to just slip into a 'good vs bad' mentality. I'm inclined to agree on the armed forces, but largely I would question whether either of the last three governments actually were any good on Defense, but were in fact good on the Defense industry (and more notably their friends in Defense companies). As for a busted flush, well time will tell, but one must question whether or not 'continuing as they were' would have been any better, given they'd lost two elections in a row. Its probably the first time in my voting life, I've ever been interested in what Labour have to say (which as a leftie is a fairly poor showing on labours behalf). The problem, I forsee, is that many of the changes that Corbyn and supporters maybe want, aren't viable in a short term frame work, but need to be graduated (the failure of most radicals is to fail to understand that sudden changes is often a disaster). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 29 Sep 15 1.54pm

Quote dannyh at 29 Sep 2015 1.21pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 28 Sep 2015 5.50pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Sep 2015 10.07am

Watching Corbyn on Andrew Marr, a few observations arise:

But they are a refreshing change from the identi-kit politicians we have had for too many years. If they came out against EU membership I would vote for them.

Different does mean good though does it ? All this refreshing change bollicks is diversionary clap trap from a busted flush that is Labour under Corbyn (or "tramp" as he shall know be known).

Just because his views are Different does not mean they hold any water what so ever.

Well yeah, kind of, in a democratic country that gives credence to free speech - Different is the very life blood of debate and democratic principles. I wouldn't really describe any party as good or bad, because the end result is largely judged subjectively by the individuals relationship to events. The reality generally tends that even broken clocks tell the right time twice a day, and the mistake of many in politics to just slip into a 'good vs bad' mentality.

I'm inclined to agree on the armed forces, but largely I would question whether either of the last three governments actually were any good on Defense, but were in fact good on the Defense industry (and more notably their friends in Defense companies).

As for a busted flush, well time will tell, but one must question whether or not 'continuing as they were' would have been any better, given they'd lost two elections in a row.

Its probably the first time in my voting life, I've ever been interested in what Labour have to say (which as a leftie is a fairly poor showing on labours behalf).

The problem, I forsee, is that many of the changes that Corbyn and supporters maybe want, aren't viable in a short term frame work, but need to be graduated (the failure of most radicals is to fail to understand that sudden changes is often a disaster).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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