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gegne78 Wellingborough , Northants 13 Apr 13 10.10pm
Quote Baldfella at 08 Apr 2013 1.39pm This country wouldn't be on its arse now if she was still in power ! Blair f***ed things up and allowed the US to bully us for far too long ! RIP Maggie ! [Link] forward to 2.05
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gegne78

Wellingborough , Northants 13 Apr 13 10.10pm

Quote Baldfella at 08 Apr 2013 1.39pm

This country wouldn't be on its arse now if she was still in power !

Blair f***ed things up and allowed the US to bully us for far too long !

RIP Maggie !

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SloveniaDave Tirana, Albania 13 Apr 13 10.11pm
Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 10.08pm Stirling, they were and I appreciate I have a minority view on the Falklands. Gusset, I shall sober up and read your piece in the morning. Keith Joseph, loathsome cvnt, even gets a mention in Beasley Street. Listen, sums up Thatcherism. or 'wrong' as most of us would describe it! Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. (Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)
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Tirana, Albania 13 Apr 13 10.11pm

Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 10.08pm

Stirling, they were and I appreciate I have a minority view on the Falklands. Gusset, I shall sober up and read your piece in the morning. Keith Joseph, loathsome cvnt, even gets a mention in Beasley Street. Listen, sums up Thatcherism.

or 'wrong' as most of us would describe it!

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.

(Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Apr 13 10.14pm
Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 10.08pm Stirling, they were and I appreciate I have a minority view on the Falklands. Gusset, I shall sober up and read your piece in the morning. Keith Joseph, loathsome cvnt, even gets a mention in Beasley Street. Listen, sums up Thatcherism. Bear in mind the conspiracy theory piece does not necessarily contain my own view, I'm just chucking it into the mix so to speak.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 13 Apr 13 10.14pm

Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 10.08pm

Stirling, they were and I appreciate I have a minority view on the Falklands. Gusset, I shall sober up and read your piece in the morning. Keith Joseph, loathsome cvnt, even gets a mention in Beasley Street. Listen, sums up Thatcherism.

Bear in mind the conspiracy theory piece does not necessarily contain my own view, I'm just chucking it into the mix so to speak.

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newickeagle Newick, E Sussex 13 Apr 13 10.16pm
I think we are taking our play off worries out on Thatcherism! I would say that under her reign I worked in the City and felt like a hooligan just saying I was watching my beloved Eagles on Saturday afternoon! She was no good for football. New thread!!!
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Newick, E Sussex 13 Apr 13 10.16pm

I think we are taking our play off worries out on Thatcherism! I would say that under her reign I worked in the City and felt like a hooligan just saying I was watching my beloved Eagles on Saturday afternoon!

She was no good for football. New thread!!!

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chris123 hove actually 13 Apr 13 10.16pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 13 Apr 2013 10.09pm Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 9.53pm Srirling, agreed, Major hung in there long enough to make the railways worse than they were. BUT, she privatised all the utility companies who rip us off now. And big time if you run a business. She had the North Sea revenue and invested none of these huge receipts on the infrastructure. Her tax cutting has not improved our economy or arrested our national decline. IMO!! I'm not sure where I stand on the utility privatisations to be honest.....The railways were a disasterous idea, in fact bringing in the profit motive in areas of safety just isn't a good idea period.....Anyone who's seen programmes about the early airplane industry would know that. Competition to supply power, gas and water is surely a good thing, plus the capital investment in all three is massive and requires investors or are in for the long term.
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Quote Stirlingsays at 13 Apr 2013 10.09pm

Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 9.53pm

Srirling, agreed, Major hung in there long enough to make the railways worse than they were.

BUT, she privatised all the utility companies who rip us off now. And big time if you run a business. She had the North Sea revenue and invested none of these huge receipts on the infrastructure. Her tax cutting has not improved our economy or arrested our national decline. IMO!!

I'm not sure where I stand on the utility privatisations to be honest.....The railways were a disasterous idea, in fact bringing in the profit motive in areas of safety just isn't a good idea period.....Anyone who's seen programmes about the early airplane industry would know that.

Competition to supply power, gas and water is surely a good thing, plus the capital investment in all three is massive and requires investors or are in for the long term.

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chris123 hove actually 13 Apr 13 10.19pm
Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 10.16pm I think we are taking our play off worries out on Thatcherism! I would say that under her reign I worked in the City and felt like a hooligan just saying I was watching my beloved Eagles on Saturday afternoon! She was no good for football. New thread!!! The City is full of hooligans, then and now.
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Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 10.16pm

She was no good for football. New thread!!!

The City is full of hooligans, then and now.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Apr 13 10.20pm
Quote chris123 at 13 Apr 2013 10.16pm Quote Stirlingsays at 13 Apr 2013 10.09pm Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 9.53pm Srirling, agreed, Major hung in there long enough to make the railways worse than they were. BUT, she privatised all the utility companies who rip us off now. And big time if you run a business. She had the North Sea revenue and invested none of these huge receipts on the infrastructure. Her tax cutting has not improved our economy or arrested our national decline. IMO!! I'm not sure where I stand on the utility privatisations to be honest.....The railways were a disasterous idea, in fact bringing in the profit motive in areas of safety just isn't a good idea period.....Anyone who's seen programmes about the early airplane industry would know that. Competition to supply power, gas and water is surely a good thing, plus the capital investment in all three is massive and requires investors or are in for the long term. If the power companies weren't (allegedly) colluding in profiteering leaving us customers with excessive bills I might even agree with you... [Link]
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Quote chris123 at 13 Apr 2013 10.16pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 13 Apr 2013 10.09pm

Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 9.53pm

Srirling, agreed, Major hung in there long enough to make the railways worse than they were.

Competition to supply power, gas and water is surely a good thing, plus the capital investment in all three is massive and requires investors or are in for the long term.

If the power companies weren't (allegedly) colluding in profiteering leaving us customers with excessive bills I might even agree with you...
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chris123 hove actually 13 Apr 13 10.25pm
Quote nickgusset at 13 Apr 2013 10.20pm Quote chris123 at 13 Apr 2013 10.16pm Quote Stirlingsays at 13 Apr 2013 10.09pm Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 9.53pm Srirling, agreed, Major hung in there long enough to make the railways worse than they were. BUT, she privatised all the utility companies who rip us off now. And big time if you run a business. She had the North Sea revenue and invested none of these huge receipts on the infrastructure. Her tax cutting has not improved our economy or arrested our national decline. IMO!! I'm not sure where I stand on the utility privatisations to be honest.....The railways were a disasterous idea, in fact bringing in the profit motive in areas of safety just isn't a good idea period.....Anyone who's seen programmes about the early airplane industry would know that. Competition to supply power, gas and water is surely a good thing, plus the capital investment in all three is massive and requires investors or are in for the long term. If the power companies weren't (allegedly) colluding in profiteering leaving us customers with excessive bills I might even agree with you... [Link] And profits are distributed as dividends to the investors, including pensionn funds - mine and yours.
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hove actually 13 Apr 13 10.25pm

Quote nickgusset at 13 Apr 2013 10.20pm

Quote chris123 at 13 Apr 2013 10.16pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 13 Apr 2013 10.09pm

Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 9.53pm

Srirling, agreed, Major hung in there long enough to make the railways worse than they were.

Competition to supply power, gas and water is surely a good thing, plus the capital investment in all three is massive and requires investors or are in for the long term.

If the power companies weren't (allegedly) colluding in profiteering leaving us customers with excessive bills I might even agree with you...
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And profits are distributed as dividends to the investors, including pensionn funds - mine and yours.

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newickeagle Newick, E Sussex 13 Apr 13 10.27pm
Chris, rubbish. EDF charge one third per kwh in France than they charge in the UK, They need regulating and as Gusset says, it is not a proper market, just a cartel. Thanks Maggie.
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newickeagle

Newick, E Sussex 13 Apr 13 10.27pm

Chris, rubbish. EDF charge one third per kwh in France than they charge in the UK, They need regulating and as Gusset says, it is not a proper market, just a cartel.

Thanks Maggie.

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chris123 hove actually 13 Apr 13 10.31pm
Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 10.27pm Chris, rubbish. EDF charge one third per kwh in France than they charge in the UK, They need regulating and as Gusset says, it is not a proper market, just a cartel. Thanks Maggie. Nuclear.
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chris123

hove actually 13 Apr 13 10.31pm

Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 10.27pm

Chris, rubbish. EDF charge one third per kwh in France than they charge in the UK, They need regulating and as Gusset says, it is not a proper market, just a cartel.

Thanks Maggie.

Nuclear.

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newickeagle Newick, E Sussex 13 Apr 13 10.48pm
Being a bit of a lefty, may have to agree, regrettably. Global warming, take the stage.
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newickeagle

Newick, E Sussex 13 Apr 13 10.48pm

Being a bit of a lefty, may have to agree, regrettably. Global warming, take the stage.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Apr 13 10.50pm
Quote chris123 at 13 Apr 2013 10.16pm Quote Stirlingsays at 13 Apr 2013 10.09pm Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 9.53pm Srirling, agreed, Major hung in there long enough to make the railways worse than they were. BUT, she privatised all the utility companies who rip us off now. And big time if you run a business. She had the North Sea revenue and invested none of these huge receipts on the infrastructure. Her tax cutting has not improved our economy or arrested our national decline. IMO!! I'm not sure where I stand on the utility privatisations to be honest.....The railways were a disasterous idea, in fact bringing in the profit motive in areas of safety just isn't a good idea period.....Anyone who's seen programmes about the early airplane industry would know that. Competition to supply power, gas and water is surely a good thing, plus the capital investment in all three is massive and requires investors or are in for the long term. Until you need to regulate and control prices to the user. The massive advantage of a state control of part of an industry is that you set the price, even if it means subsidising the cost of the utility via the treasury, where as the free market has to operate based entirely on profit, a state industry can if necessary take a hit to keep prices low, or more importantly slow the rise of price. The problem is that private industry isn't really in competition, it generally locks down the business to a few major companies, and their subsidiaries. The actual level of competition is fairly minor, and the need to compete minimal. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Apr 13 10.50pm

Quote chris123 at 13 Apr 2013 10.16pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 13 Apr 2013 10.09pm

Quote newickeagle at 13 Apr 2013 9.53pm

Srirling, agreed, Major hung in there long enough to make the railways worse than they were.

Competition to supply power, gas and water is surely a good thing, plus the capital investment in all three is massive and requires investors or are in for the long term.

Until you need to regulate and control prices to the user. The massive advantage of a state control of part of an industry is that you set the price, even if it means subsidising the cost of the utility via the treasury, where as the free market has to operate based entirely on profit, a state industry can if necessary take a hit to keep prices low, or more importantly slow the rise of price.

The problem is that private industry isn't really in competition, it generally locks down the business to a few major companies, and their subsidiaries. The actual level of competition is fairly minor, and the need to compete minimal.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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